"Murder of Caesar" by Piloty‘When Your Foe Is Perilously Strong’: A Villanelle by Maria Panayi The Society September 13, 2024 Culture, Poetry, Villanelle 13 Comments . When Your Foe Is Perilously Strong When your foe is perilously strong It mightn’t be too preposterous or wrong To let him think that you’re a friend of his. If you’re a minority and somewhat weak There is no shame at first in being meek When your foe is perilously strong. You always should invite him out to dine Serve him your best, a vintage mellow wine, To let him think that you’re a friend of his. Be helpful, show him that you mean the best And that there is no shame in taking a rest, When your foe is perilously strong. Get closer to him working as a team Fulfilling all his wildest of dreams To let him think that you’re a friend of his. Be subtle when you’re leading him amiss, And let him have a meaningless small kiss When your foe is perilously strong; To let him think that you’re a friend of his. . . Maria Panayi was born in Cyprus before the Turkish invasion but now lives in the UK as her former home is under occupation. She is now retired after working for many years supporting children with special education needs.. NOTE TO READERS: If you enjoyed this poem or other content, please consider making a donation to the Society of Classical Poets. The Society of Classical Poets does not endorse any views expressed in individual poems or commentary. CODEC Stories:Share this:Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window) 13 Responses Michael Pietrack September 13, 2024 Hi Maria, nice job. I love villanelles. Reply Maria September 13, 2024 Thank you so much for your very kind comment. Reply Roy Eugene Peterson September 13, 2024 Sun Tzu, who wrote about the principles of war, would agree with your perceptive approach to strong enemies. Cultivating allies, beats showing fear and reproach. Nicely done. Reply Maria September 13, 2024 Thank you so much for your very kind comment . Yes, I agree whole heartedly if only we could cultivate allies instead of making enemies. Reply Paul A. Freeman September 13, 2024 ‘diplomacy’, ‘appeasement’ – there are advantages in shooting straight, as well as disadvantages. Your poem brings focus to the dilemma of being a minority and getting your voice heard. Thanks for the read, Maria. Reply Maria September 13, 2024 Thank you so much for your very kind comment. I absolutely agree there are always advantages and disadvantages. I also like the word dilemma very much There used to be a saying that all is fair in love and war which is really ironic as there is nothing fair about war and as for love how could it be? Thank you for reading and commenting. I really appreciate poets such as yourself, Roy and Michael taking the time to comment. Reply Joseph S. Salemi September 13, 2024 An interesting villanelle, which sounds as if it had been composed by Machiavelli. We need more citizens who know the effective ways of fighting, and not the strangling restrictions of Categorical Imperatives. One typo: In the last quatrain’s first line, “when your leading him” should be corrected to “when you’re leading him.” Reply Maria September 13, 2024 Oops , dear Mike please help, Well Machiavelli would not have made such a typo! Thank you dear Joseph for spotting it. All the other you’re/your are correct so don’t know how that one got away. Yes, Machiavellian, I wondered whether I would have to put a disclaimer that the views of this poet and the views of the speaker of the poem are not necessarily one and the same . This poem came about through observation of behaviour that took a long time to comprehend. The poem itself went nowhere until I tried the villanelle form and for that I am very grateful to SCP. Thank you for commenting , I always look forward to your comments very much. Reply Joseph S. Salemi September 14, 2024 Maria, never apologize for any idea that you put into a poem, and never issue any kind of “disclaimer.” It only makes you look weak. No poet is answerable for what he or she writes, no matter what moralists and religionists might tell you. Maria September 14, 2024 Thank you perhaps I should just remember that a poem is a fictive artefact. I am sure that will help in the future. I am happy with the villanelle though and I suppose I should have taken the reference to Machiavelli more as a compliment. Thank you Margaret Coats September 14, 2024 A creative new rhyme scheme for the villanelle! Usual is: AbA* abA abA* abA abA* abAA* where A and A* are rhyming refrains repeated alternately. The Maria Panayi villanelle goes: AaB ccA ddB eeA ffB ggAB Capitals here indicate non-rhyming alternate refrains. Or we could describe Maria’s last stanza as b’b’AB, because her last couplet with “amiss” and “kiss” rhymes imperfectly with the B refrain that ends “his.” The two sounds are /is/ in b’ and /iz/ in B. And both b’ rhyme words display variation in tone, suggesting deception of the “perilously strong” foe. That’s a clever twist on your overall theme, Maria. But I don’t think we could require that every poet using your villanelle variant do something similar. As I’m sure you know, your rhyme scheme is easier than the standard, but that doesn’t make it any less creative. Lewis Turco, an authority on lyric form, invented the terzanelle (supposedly combining villanelle with terza rima), and allowing a greater number of rhyme sounds, just as yours does. This is a relatively modern lyric form still in the process of development. There is only one old French one (about 1600) with the standard rhyme scheme. In the nineteenth century both French and English poets began to copy the form. Anyone who wants to write a villanelle with more than six stanzas should know that there are already some excellent ones in English, and one of a full twenty stanzas in French. American poet Gilbert Sorrentino made a “Villanette” of five stanzas in short lines. Good work with your variation, Maria! Reply Maria September 15, 2024 Dear Margaret, thank you so much for such valuable feedback. I can’t adequately express how much it means to me to receive such a knowledgeable and detailed explanation. In addition I am now inspired to attempt a villanelle in the standard form. With grateful thanks and best wishes, Maria Reply Maria September 18, 2024 May I just say a sincere thank you to Evan, this time about the illustration. I have looked at other paintings about the death of Caesar, all great works of art but have found this to be the most magnificent and captivating. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. It is truly awesome. Reply Leave a Reply Cancel ReplyYour email address will not be published.CommentName* Email* Website Captcha loading...In order to pass the CAPTCHA please enable JavaScript. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email. Δ This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Roy Eugene Peterson September 13, 2024 Sun Tzu, who wrote about the principles of war, would agree with your perceptive approach to strong enemies. Cultivating allies, beats showing fear and reproach. Nicely done. Reply
Maria September 13, 2024 Thank you so much for your very kind comment . Yes, I agree whole heartedly if only we could cultivate allies instead of making enemies. Reply
Paul A. Freeman September 13, 2024 ‘diplomacy’, ‘appeasement’ – there are advantages in shooting straight, as well as disadvantages. Your poem brings focus to the dilemma of being a minority and getting your voice heard. Thanks for the read, Maria. Reply
Maria September 13, 2024 Thank you so much for your very kind comment. I absolutely agree there are always advantages and disadvantages. I also like the word dilemma very much There used to be a saying that all is fair in love and war which is really ironic as there is nothing fair about war and as for love how could it be? Thank you for reading and commenting. I really appreciate poets such as yourself, Roy and Michael taking the time to comment. Reply
Joseph S. Salemi September 13, 2024 An interesting villanelle, which sounds as if it had been composed by Machiavelli. We need more citizens who know the effective ways of fighting, and not the strangling restrictions of Categorical Imperatives. One typo: In the last quatrain’s first line, “when your leading him” should be corrected to “when you’re leading him.” Reply
Maria September 13, 2024 Oops , dear Mike please help, Well Machiavelli would not have made such a typo! Thank you dear Joseph for spotting it. All the other you’re/your are correct so don’t know how that one got away. Yes, Machiavellian, I wondered whether I would have to put a disclaimer that the views of this poet and the views of the speaker of the poem are not necessarily one and the same . This poem came about through observation of behaviour that took a long time to comprehend. The poem itself went nowhere until I tried the villanelle form and for that I am very grateful to SCP. Thank you for commenting , I always look forward to your comments very much. Reply
Joseph S. Salemi September 14, 2024 Maria, never apologize for any idea that you put into a poem, and never issue any kind of “disclaimer.” It only makes you look weak. No poet is answerable for what he or she writes, no matter what moralists and religionists might tell you.
Maria September 14, 2024 Thank you perhaps I should just remember that a poem is a fictive artefact. I am sure that will help in the future. I am happy with the villanelle though and I suppose I should have taken the reference to Machiavelli more as a compliment. Thank you
Margaret Coats September 14, 2024 A creative new rhyme scheme for the villanelle! Usual is: AbA* abA abA* abA abA* abAA* where A and A* are rhyming refrains repeated alternately. The Maria Panayi villanelle goes: AaB ccA ddB eeA ffB ggAB Capitals here indicate non-rhyming alternate refrains. Or we could describe Maria’s last stanza as b’b’AB, because her last couplet with “amiss” and “kiss” rhymes imperfectly with the B refrain that ends “his.” The two sounds are /is/ in b’ and /iz/ in B. And both b’ rhyme words display variation in tone, suggesting deception of the “perilously strong” foe. That’s a clever twist on your overall theme, Maria. But I don’t think we could require that every poet using your villanelle variant do something similar. As I’m sure you know, your rhyme scheme is easier than the standard, but that doesn’t make it any less creative. Lewis Turco, an authority on lyric form, invented the terzanelle (supposedly combining villanelle with terza rima), and allowing a greater number of rhyme sounds, just as yours does. This is a relatively modern lyric form still in the process of development. There is only one old French one (about 1600) with the standard rhyme scheme. In the nineteenth century both French and English poets began to copy the form. Anyone who wants to write a villanelle with more than six stanzas should know that there are already some excellent ones in English, and one of a full twenty stanzas in French. American poet Gilbert Sorrentino made a “Villanette” of five stanzas in short lines. Good work with your variation, Maria! Reply
Maria September 15, 2024 Dear Margaret, thank you so much for such valuable feedback. I can’t adequately express how much it means to me to receive such a knowledgeable and detailed explanation. In addition I am now inspired to attempt a villanelle in the standard form. With grateful thanks and best wishes, Maria Reply
Maria September 18, 2024 May I just say a sincere thank you to Evan, this time about the illustration. I have looked at other paintings about the death of Caesar, all great works of art but have found this to be the most magnificent and captivating. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. It is truly awesome. Reply