"David and Goliath" by Osmar Schindler‘Some Post-Animated Protestations of Goliath of Gath’: A Poem by James Sale The Society August 3, 2023 Poetry, Satire 27 Comments . Some Post-Animated Protestations of Goliath of Gath Firstly, I protest That this protestation Is useless nonetheless. Secondly, I object To prejudice pronounced In so-called holy text. Thirdly, I revolt Against the pipsqueak king Whose crown was not my fault. Fourthly, I dismiss All Jewish, idle tales That boast of his prowess. Fifthly, I reject Suggestions that defeat Was other than by hex. Sixthly, I demand An explanation why I fell by murderous hand? Lastly, I confess This hole in my head hurts Like aching endlessness. . . James Sale has had over 50 books published, most recently, “Mapping Motivation for Top Performing Teams” (Routledge, 2021). He has been nominated by The Hong Kong Review for the 2022 Pushcart Prize for poetry, has won first prize in The Society of Classical Poets 2017 annual competition, and performed in New York in 2019. He is a regular contributor to The Epoch Times. His most recent poetry collection is “StairWell.” For more information about the author, and about his Dante project, visit https://englishcantos.home.blog. To subscribe to his brief, free and monthly poetry newsletter, contact him at James@motivationalmaps.com NOTE TO READERS: If you enjoyed this poem or other content, please consider making a donation to the Society of Classical Poets. The Society of Classical Poets does not endorse any views expressed in individual poems or commentary. 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Thanks for a most unexpected treat! Reply James Sale August 6, 2023 Cheers Brian – yea, well everyone truly does have their own perspective, but against modernist thought, not all perspectives are ‘equally’ valid as you quite rightly infer. Goliath – a type of our age? How easily overcome – when you have the right strategy! Reply Joseph S. Salemi August 3, 2023 Goliath has always been a symbol of strength without humility. Here we also get a comic picture of his side of the story. (We should also remember that David himself turned out to be something of a disappointment). As a small point — note how Sale uses seven separate verbs (“protest, object, revolt…”) to tell us what the speaker is doing. As with the slant rhymes, this is a sign of a poet who is conscious of his craft. Reply James Sale August 6, 2023 Hi Joe, thanks so much for your comments. As for your ‘small point’, well, of course, as you know so well – and I see in your expert poetry – it is actually a giant point (Goliathean if I may put it that way): for the strength of any language is always in the verbs, and weak poets failing to understand this, focus on adjectives and – worse – adverbs, which movement actually (adverb here!) moves us away from ‘being’ towards description of being; in other words, towards a secondary mode of existence. Long live the verb! Reply Roy Eugene Peterson August 3, 2023 I fear Goliath’s protestations are falling on deaf ears. This is a fun read from first positing that his protestations are useless to the conclusion that the hole in his head is an endless headache that went down in history and thus is on a repetitive endless cycle of doom. Loved your tercets! Reply James Sale August 6, 2023 Thanks Roy – so pleased you love the tercets: so don’t forget, I’ve written a lot more of them in HellWard and StairWell. You have given me the idea to promote my books on the basis of your comment: ‘You’ve topped up on vitamin C, on vitamin D, now top up on your tercets – get your copy of StairWell right now; you’ll feel so much better after you’ve digested it!’ Reply Paul Freeman August 4, 2023 I was reminded of John Belushi in The Blues Brothers, using a bunch of lame excuses in an attempt to convince Carrie Fisher that he didn’t deliberately stand her up at their wedding. Very funny. Thanks for the read. Reply James Sale August 8, 2023 Thanks Paul – a film I must remember to re-visit soon; as you say, very funny! Reply Morrison Handley-Schachler August 4, 2023 A very amusing protestation, James, but I fear Goliath brought about his own downfall by arrogantly believing that nobody would ever take up his challenge and, therefore, that his fighting abilities would never really be tested – especially by someone with a long-range missile system. Reply James Sale August 8, 2023 Thanks Morrison: you are of course right – it’s called hubris in the Greek tradition and in some sense we are all architects of our own downfalls! Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant August 4, 2023 Hilarious! Goliath – a gargantuan victim of self-inflicted circumstances. How well he would fit in today’s society. I love it! Reply James Sale August 10, 2023 Indeed, Susan, a perfect fit for today: all that me-me-me virtue signalling! Thanks. Reply Michael Pietrack August 4, 2023 Those who deny God and disregard his standards found in the Bible, though they are a composite giant, will fall to the ground as did Goliath. Reply James Sale August 10, 2023 I get your point, Michael: as GK Chesterton once wisely observed: “Morality did not begin by one man saying to another, ‘I will not hit you if you do not hit me’; there is not trace of such a transaction. There is a trace of both men having said, ‘We must not hit each other in the holy place’. They gained their morality by guarding their religion.” Reply ABB August 4, 2023 This is one of your funniest short poems, James! I wonder if the brutish Goliath required a lawyer-scribe to explicate his arguments? The hole in the head hurting “like aching endlessness” is a fitting conclusion for both poem and man. Reply James Sale August 10, 2023 Yes, Andrew – he did require a lawyer: his feelings were hurt, and ‘David’ made him feel ‘uncomfortable’; all of this requires compensation … PS. Glad you liked it! Reply Margaret Coats August 5, 2023 James, I must disagree with my distinguished colleagues who find this a funny poem. You have well used the psychological skills you developed in portraying damned souls. Goliath’s plight is not humorous, and yet your presentation of him does not elicit any sympathy. You show him forever maintaining enmity with God, and continuing in sins such as pride, hatred, and blasphemy. There is a nice progression from the mild opening protest despite knowing its uselessness, to the aching final confession that he feels endless pain. The best touch there is how the pain felt in the soul derives from the mortal pain experienced in the body. This is very sensitive work. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant August 5, 2023 Margaret, I disagree. Many a grave point is made through satire. This does not mean that those who write and find such works humorous are oblivious to the sensitive and sad underlying issues. The whole point of satire is to highlight them… to point out pitfalls from a creative angle. Reply James Sale August 12, 2023 Thanks Susan: satire can do many things – sometimes in pity, sometimes in rage – outrage even! Appreciate your thoughts on this. Monika Cooper August 7, 2023 I also didn’t think the poem was funny but the form created an expectation of humor. I think there’s a form-content tension here. I was trying to decide myself if Goliath was a sympathetic figure or not. Not really, yet at the end of the poem, we’re literally (or at least metaphorically) in his head and it’s not a very comfortable place to be. Reply James Sale August 7, 2023 Ha ha ha!!! You’ll find a lot of my poems are not a ‘comfortable place to be’ – why, take HellWard as a case in point! But for more on the topic of beauty, do see my latest article for the Epoch Times on beauty and Genesis chapter 1: https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/the-creation-of-meaning-and-beauty-genesis-ch-1-post-5435201 I think you’ll enjoy it. Regards. Monika Cooper August 9, 2023 Yes, I did enjoy it! Thank you. The six day creation account is completely indispensable for what it reveals about God and the order and beauty of His making, His doings. The words of Genesis are to be esteemed and treasured beyond the words of men, whoever they may be. Every seven day week of time is a liturgical witness to the truth of the first book of Moses. James Sale August 11, 2023 Thank you Margaret: you are right in maintaining what kind of a character Goliath is – a character like Capaneus the proud! And yes, how our souls and bodies interact is a key issue. Reply The Mindflayer August 7, 2023 Whether we find the poem funny or not – for what could be more subjective than humour? – it is certainly playful, and, as Monika observed, full of tensions: modern vocabulary (pipsqueak) contrasting with ancient (hex), the grandiose (I fell by murderous hand) with the bathetic (I protest / That this protestation / Is useless nonetheless). The idea of a re-animated Goliath justifying his defeat is Dante-esque, for the sinners in the Inferno so often resort to self-justification even in the face of divine arbitration (and of course, even in The Inferno Dante had many moments of humour in his Comedy too, as the name would suggest!). In typical Sale style, the ending rises above playfulness and reaches transcendence – in this case of an existential kind. It evokes the words of the Christian rapper Bizzle, who, writing from the perspective of God in the Book of Job, wrote, “You without Me is what Death is.” This is the human condition of sin and oh-so-true of Goliath: without the Divine, he has become “aching endlessness”, aka, a state of perpetual suffering. Reply James Sale August 18, 2023 Thank you Mindflayer for this deeply appreciative dive into the mechanics of the poem: your comments on the linguistic tensions are, I think, very perceptive. Plus, your reference to Dante does suggest I could do – once the English cantos are complete – some supplementary follow-up poems where I include characters who intrigue me but whom I haven’t included in the main body of the work!!! A great idea! Thanks. 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James Sale August 6, 2023 Thank you Cheryl – glad that ‘pipsqueak’ pleases you; as for slant rhymes, also pleased you noticed them. Rhyming that is too fluent – unless for a specific purpose (the wit of Dryden, for example!) – can be tedious! Reply
Brian A Yapko August 3, 2023 This is very funny, James! I’ve never considered David & Goliath from Goliath’s point of view! What a litany of post-mortem complaints not one of which holds water! That the giant is so illogical yet whiny and entitled is very modern. Thanks for a most unexpected treat! Reply
James Sale August 6, 2023 Cheers Brian – yea, well everyone truly does have their own perspective, but against modernist thought, not all perspectives are ‘equally’ valid as you quite rightly infer. Goliath – a type of our age? How easily overcome – when you have the right strategy! Reply
Joseph S. Salemi August 3, 2023 Goliath has always been a symbol of strength without humility. Here we also get a comic picture of his side of the story. (We should also remember that David himself turned out to be something of a disappointment). As a small point — note how Sale uses seven separate verbs (“protest, object, revolt…”) to tell us what the speaker is doing. As with the slant rhymes, this is a sign of a poet who is conscious of his craft. Reply
James Sale August 6, 2023 Hi Joe, thanks so much for your comments. As for your ‘small point’, well, of course, as you know so well – and I see in your expert poetry – it is actually a giant point (Goliathean if I may put it that way): for the strength of any language is always in the verbs, and weak poets failing to understand this, focus on adjectives and – worse – adverbs, which movement actually (adverb here!) moves us away from ‘being’ towards description of being; in other words, towards a secondary mode of existence. Long live the verb! Reply
Roy Eugene Peterson August 3, 2023 I fear Goliath’s protestations are falling on deaf ears. This is a fun read from first positing that his protestations are useless to the conclusion that the hole in his head is an endless headache that went down in history and thus is on a repetitive endless cycle of doom. Loved your tercets! Reply
James Sale August 6, 2023 Thanks Roy – so pleased you love the tercets: so don’t forget, I’ve written a lot more of them in HellWard and StairWell. You have given me the idea to promote my books on the basis of your comment: ‘You’ve topped up on vitamin C, on vitamin D, now top up on your tercets – get your copy of StairWell right now; you’ll feel so much better after you’ve digested it!’ Reply
Paul Freeman August 4, 2023 I was reminded of John Belushi in The Blues Brothers, using a bunch of lame excuses in an attempt to convince Carrie Fisher that he didn’t deliberately stand her up at their wedding. Very funny. Thanks for the read. Reply
James Sale August 8, 2023 Thanks Paul – a film I must remember to re-visit soon; as you say, very funny! Reply
Morrison Handley-Schachler August 4, 2023 A very amusing protestation, James, but I fear Goliath brought about his own downfall by arrogantly believing that nobody would ever take up his challenge and, therefore, that his fighting abilities would never really be tested – especially by someone with a long-range missile system. Reply
James Sale August 8, 2023 Thanks Morrison: you are of course right – it’s called hubris in the Greek tradition and in some sense we are all architects of our own downfalls! Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant August 4, 2023 Hilarious! Goliath – a gargantuan victim of self-inflicted circumstances. How well he would fit in today’s society. I love it! Reply
James Sale August 10, 2023 Indeed, Susan, a perfect fit for today: all that me-me-me virtue signalling! Thanks. Reply
Michael Pietrack August 4, 2023 Those who deny God and disregard his standards found in the Bible, though they are a composite giant, will fall to the ground as did Goliath. Reply
James Sale August 10, 2023 I get your point, Michael: as GK Chesterton once wisely observed: “Morality did not begin by one man saying to another, ‘I will not hit you if you do not hit me’; there is not trace of such a transaction. There is a trace of both men having said, ‘We must not hit each other in the holy place’. They gained their morality by guarding their religion.” Reply
ABB August 4, 2023 This is one of your funniest short poems, James! I wonder if the brutish Goliath required a lawyer-scribe to explicate his arguments? The hole in the head hurting “like aching endlessness” is a fitting conclusion for both poem and man. Reply
James Sale August 10, 2023 Yes, Andrew – he did require a lawyer: his feelings were hurt, and ‘David’ made him feel ‘uncomfortable’; all of this requires compensation … PS. Glad you liked it! Reply
Margaret Coats August 5, 2023 James, I must disagree with my distinguished colleagues who find this a funny poem. You have well used the psychological skills you developed in portraying damned souls. Goliath’s plight is not humorous, and yet your presentation of him does not elicit any sympathy. You show him forever maintaining enmity with God, and continuing in sins such as pride, hatred, and blasphemy. There is a nice progression from the mild opening protest despite knowing its uselessness, to the aching final confession that he feels endless pain. The best touch there is how the pain felt in the soul derives from the mortal pain experienced in the body. This is very sensitive work. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant August 5, 2023 Margaret, I disagree. Many a grave point is made through satire. This does not mean that those who write and find such works humorous are oblivious to the sensitive and sad underlying issues. The whole point of satire is to highlight them… to point out pitfalls from a creative angle. Reply
James Sale August 12, 2023 Thanks Susan: satire can do many things – sometimes in pity, sometimes in rage – outrage even! Appreciate your thoughts on this.
Monika Cooper August 7, 2023 I also didn’t think the poem was funny but the form created an expectation of humor. I think there’s a form-content tension here. I was trying to decide myself if Goliath was a sympathetic figure or not. Not really, yet at the end of the poem, we’re literally (or at least metaphorically) in his head and it’s not a very comfortable place to be. Reply
James Sale August 7, 2023 Ha ha ha!!! You’ll find a lot of my poems are not a ‘comfortable place to be’ – why, take HellWard as a case in point! But for more on the topic of beauty, do see my latest article for the Epoch Times on beauty and Genesis chapter 1: https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/the-creation-of-meaning-and-beauty-genesis-ch-1-post-5435201 I think you’ll enjoy it. Regards.
Monika Cooper August 9, 2023 Yes, I did enjoy it! Thank you. The six day creation account is completely indispensable for what it reveals about God and the order and beauty of His making, His doings. The words of Genesis are to be esteemed and treasured beyond the words of men, whoever they may be. Every seven day week of time is a liturgical witness to the truth of the first book of Moses.
James Sale August 11, 2023 Thank you Margaret: you are right in maintaining what kind of a character Goliath is – a character like Capaneus the proud! And yes, how our souls and bodies interact is a key issue. Reply
The Mindflayer August 7, 2023 Whether we find the poem funny or not – for what could be more subjective than humour? – it is certainly playful, and, as Monika observed, full of tensions: modern vocabulary (pipsqueak) contrasting with ancient (hex), the grandiose (I fell by murderous hand) with the bathetic (I protest / That this protestation / Is useless nonetheless). The idea of a re-animated Goliath justifying his defeat is Dante-esque, for the sinners in the Inferno so often resort to self-justification even in the face of divine arbitration (and of course, even in The Inferno Dante had many moments of humour in his Comedy too, as the name would suggest!). In typical Sale style, the ending rises above playfulness and reaches transcendence – in this case of an existential kind. It evokes the words of the Christian rapper Bizzle, who, writing from the perspective of God in the Book of Job, wrote, “You without Me is what Death is.” This is the human condition of sin and oh-so-true of Goliath: without the Divine, he has become “aching endlessness”, aka, a state of perpetual suffering. Reply
James Sale August 18, 2023 Thank you Mindflayer for this deeply appreciative dive into the mechanics of the poem: your comments on the linguistic tensions are, I think, very perceptive. Plus, your reference to Dante does suggest I could do – once the English cantos are complete – some supplementary follow-up poems where I include characters who intrigue me but whom I haven’t included in the main body of the work!!! A great idea! Thanks. Reply