Illustration of an old maid‘Long List of Requirements’ and Other Poems by Russel Winick The Society January 17, 2024 Poetry, Satire 33 Comments . Long List of Requirements The sweet and lovely woman sought __A man to call her own. She had lots of prerequisites __And kept them cast in stone. Some friends were worried such a list __Would court futility. But she felt it was needed for __Compatibility. All those with vast criteria __They call their comfort zone, Might learn from this fine woman, who __Regrets her life alone. . . Self-Help No matter the causative dramas, One challenge we all must fulfill, Is if we don’t tackle our traumas, It’s certain the outside world will. . . Return to Normal The man enjoyed a long-blessed life __With love and ample wealth. But suddenly a threat was rife— __A challenge to his health. He prayed to God he’d be OK __And promised if he was, He’d have more gratitude each day __In everything he does. With awesome luck his health came back __The threat in full supplanted. And quickly he resumed his knack __Of taking life for granted. . . Just Another Deep Blue City Day A nine-year-old girl Just joyful and good, Now lay in a morgue, The victim of bullets Intended for others In her crime-infested Deep Blue neighborhood. Of course it caused outrage Complete with a protest, A minister said: “There’s no reason or rhyme, This can’t be accepted We have to do something It simply must end!” For the thirty-third time. . . Russel Winick recently started writing poetry after ending a long legal career. He resides in Naperville, Illinois. NOTE TO READERS: If you enjoyed this poem or other content, please consider making a donation to the Society of Classical Poets. The Society of Classical Poets does not endorse any views expressed in individual poems or commentary. 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Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thanks jd. Your kind words are always appreciated! Reply Roy Eugene Peterson January 17, 2024 There is a lot of wisdom packed into these compact verses! Great thoughts often have greater impact in a condensed package! These are to be savored and saved for future purposes. Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Roy – Your words are more than I feel worthy of. Thank you so much for your kindness! Reply Norma Pain January 17, 2024 I really like all of these poems Russel. You manage to pack so much wisdom into so few words with clever rhythm and rhyme. Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thanks Norma – that means a lot, coming from you! Reply Joseph S. Salemi January 17, 2024 Yes, these all have gems of wisdom. They are fine and well-crafted poems, every single one. But let me add this: if readers just look for simple homespun lessons (the “three miseries” of meaning, message, and moral), they will miss Winick’s overall point. All four poems are sarcastic vignettes of human ignorance and silliness! Consider each one. The persnickety old maid, by being too choosy, has ruined her life. People who don’t face up to their own problems and traumas will get screwed by the world. A wealthy and comfortable man typically forgets the debt that he owes to God. An innocent child gets killed in the mad criminality of our urban centers. By putting them all together, Winick isn’t creating catechism examples! He’s portraying the inescapable horror of human stupidity, and its perennial results. As a lawyer, the poet certainly saw a great deal of the worst side of human life: the greed, the selfishness, the cruelty, the illogic, the vindictiveness, the hatred, the entanglements of protracted litigation… everything that lawyers, psychiatrists, and policemen see on a daily basis. Reply Alan Steinle January 17, 2024 First of all, if our poems don’t have any meaning at all, then we might as well be writing random syllables. What makes meaning “miserable” sometimes is that we all read into another person’s words our own meanings, which might not be what the author or anyone else saw in the them. Words have unique meanings to each of us because they are associated with unique personal experiences in this world. Legal writing might try to take all of the uncertainty out of words, but even here there is wiggle room for interpretation. If we miss a poet’s own meaning completely, then he would be justified in explaining it in prose, but one of the exciting and frustrating things about poetry, and writing in general, is that we all have our own reflections and interpretations, which don’t have to be viewed or refuted as dogmas. You seem to be giving a meaning to the poems with this statement: “He’s portraying the inescapable horror of human stupidity, and its perennial results.” I wonder if the author would agree completely with your assessment. If he does, does that make it the absolute meaning of the poems? And if the horror of stupidity is inescapable, then why try to improve oneself at all? In my life and poems, I don’t try to create dogmas, but I do agree with the quotation from Browning, “A man’s reach should exceed his grasp, or what’s a heaven for?” Since our language can still create confusions, I believe that the ultimate truth is not verbal, but rather is a state of certainty in eternity. And that’s not a dogma. 🙂 Reply Joseph S. Salemi January 17, 2024 Alan, I did not say that Winick’s poems have no meaning, or that their meaning was purely dependent on what each individual sees in them. I merely said that the poems were sarcastic vignettes about human stupidity. I felt that many of the other comments posted disregarded this fact, and were reading the poems in a happy, feel-good, positive. smiley-face way — something that is far too common around here. About the validity of individual interpretations — let me give an anecdote. Many years ago, when I was on the full-time faculty at a college, we were interviewing a young man who had just received his PhD. and who was applying for a position as a Shakespeare specialist. To test his abilities, one of the interviewers asked him to talk at length about The Taming of the Shrew. He went on for about fifteen minutes, interpreting the play as a feminist indictment of male arrogance and patriarchal control, with all the concomitant bullshit about gender roles and misogyny. One of our older professors asked him: “Do you think that’s what Shakespeare intended as the meaning of the play?” The little schmuck smiled and replied: “That’s what it means today.” This radical relativism cannot be tolerated in the interpretation of literary texts, and certainly not when we are dealing with traditional formal poetry. Traditional texts have meaning — sometimes clear and fixed, sometimes nuanced, sometimes conflicted. But they are NOT available for any damned interpretation at all! I think Winick’s poems are about the subjects that I mentioned, and that reading them as happy occasions for moralizing is misguided. Maybe Winick would disagree with me, and say that he wrote the poems purely as illustrative material for sermons or catechisms. OK, fine. But to me that would suggest that poets are not always the best interpreters of their own work. Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Alan – I would say that I try to depict the human condition as I see and understand it, including shortcomings that may be relatable and hopefully are interesting. Alan Steinle January 18, 2024 Thanks, Russel. That sounds reasonable. Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Joseph – Thank you, first of all, for the compliments. They are humbly appreciated. Second, your analysis is a good example of why SCP has been a godsend for me, in that you and so many other contributors have so much poetic knowledge and experience that I lack, and greatly benefit from. You all can see things in my poems that I’m not necessarily aware of myself, but which often make a quite a bit of sense. As for the sound grouping of these poems, all credit for that goes to Evan, not me. Reply Mia January 17, 2024 On reading these poem I inadvertently thought of something that up to now found perplexing. What makes a good poem for me. Given that all are well written with meter and rhyme , why are some more appealing than others .On reading these I realised that the poet here makes unpleasant scenarios far more palatable and easier to read. Well apart from the last one the previous ones all made me smile but given its subject it did not jar. Poetry elevating the mundane? I don’t know just commenting. What do you think ? In other words thank you for these, enjoyed reading them . Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thank you Mia – I’m glad you enjoyed the poems. I try to depict life and people with messages that are no happier or sadder than reality and credibility requires. Reply Paul A. Freeman January 17, 2024 The Long List of Requirements is an excellent modern cautionary tale, if not an allegory. Reading Self-Help, I read ‘tantrums’ for ‘traumas’, both of which resonate, though the former doesn’t, alas, rhyme with ‘dramas’. And Just Another Deep Blue City Day – I didn’t understand why the blue factor needed to be included to explain away the high per capita death rate from guns and gun violence in America. That aside, the blase ‘thoughts and prayers’ ending is masterful. Thanks for the reads. Reply Joseph S. Salemi January 17, 2024 Are you trying to censor what Winick says, Paul? Does his “meaning” have to coincide with your political opinions? Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Paul – Thank you for your compliments. They are much appreciated. Just Another Deep Blue City Day was inspired by actual events, which occurred recently in a large, urban, Democratically-controlled city. For the reason alluded to by Mike below, I believe those demographic and political facts are part of the story, and therefore they were included in the poem. Reply C.B. Anderson January 17, 2024 At some point, Paul, you will have seen enough of what’s happening in urban settings run by libtards to realize that such “leaders” are spectacularly inept at preserving civilization. Or perhaps it will never matter how much you have seen, due to your clouded vision. Reply Joshua C. Frank January 17, 2024 “Inept” implies that they want to preserve civilization but just aren’t smart enough. I don’t give them that much credit. If they were inept, they’d make mistakes in our favor once in a while, but they never do. No, I think they actively want to destroy civilization to make us all easier to control. Mike Bryant January 17, 2024 There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see. -Leonardo da Vinci Mike Bryant January 17, 2024 First, Russel these poems are really great. I do know that you know this simple fact: The USA is 3rd in murders throughout the world. If you remove: 1. Chicago 2. Detroit 3. Washington DC 4. St. Louis 5. New Orleans The USA is then 189th out of 193 countries in the world. All five cities have very strict gun laws and are run by Democrats. Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thank you Mike, for the praise. And yes, I am generally familiar with those facts. I’m from the first city on your list, and it’s very scary. Reply C.B. Anderson January 17, 2024 I love a mordant poem, Russel. Keep watching the world and keep callin’ ’em like you see ’em. Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thank you Sir, and will do! Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant January 17, 2024 Russel, these poems tap into the dark side of the human psyche to reveal exactly why the world is plagued with loneliness, irresponsibility, ingratitude, and apathy… and what an abundance there is to go round… often paid for by those stoking chaos for personal gain. Thank you for shedding light in the dark and murky corners where the ogres and their apologists lurk. Reply Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thanks Susan. I’ll keep tapping… Reply Cheryl Corey January 18, 2024 Russel, your witticisms never disappoint. Reply Russel Winick January 18, 2024 Thanks Cheryl. Now if I could just get my kids to see it that way….! Reply Jeff Eardley January 18, 2024 Russel, very witty and most enjoyable. I particularly enjoyed “Return to normal,” that feeling of euphoria on recovery from surgery that quickly melts away into the daily grind of normality. There is much wisdom in your poetry. Thank you for a great read. Reply Russel Winick January 18, 2024 You’re most welcome, Jeff. And thank you for the very kind words. Reply Adam Sedia January 23, 2024 “A Long List of Requirements” is a nice character study, but one reminiscent of a more innocent time when women who were too picky would become spinsters “church ladies.” Unfortunately, an updated version of the poem would have to be X-rated to account for the escapades before thinking she is still wife material. As a fellow Chicagoland resident (though mercifully on the Indiana side), “Just Another Deep Blue City Day” evoked memories of I don’t know how many local news reports (before I stopped watching for good) of justifiably outraged communities that then go on to ask for more of what makes them miserable. Also, nice double entendre on “blue.” Reply Russel Winick January 23, 2024 Thanks Adam, for your feedback. I enjoyed reading it. 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Alan Steinle January 17, 2024 Your first poem, “Long List of Requirements,” reminds me of the song “Owner of a Lonely Heart” by the band Yes. This is the chorus: Owner of a lonely heart Owner of a lonely heart (It’s much better than a) owner of a broken heart Owner of a lonely heart Your poem also reminds me of the saying, “Marry in haste, repent at leisure.” Is loneliness worse than the risk of unhappiness or divorce? Regret can occur in both situations. However, with a different perspective, all experiences can be seen as opportunities to learn and grow. Reply
Roy Eugene Peterson January 17, 2024 There is a lot of wisdom packed into these compact verses! Great thoughts often have greater impact in a condensed package! These are to be savored and saved for future purposes. Reply
Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Roy – Your words are more than I feel worthy of. Thank you so much for your kindness! Reply
Norma Pain January 17, 2024 I really like all of these poems Russel. You manage to pack so much wisdom into so few words with clever rhythm and rhyme. Reply
Joseph S. Salemi January 17, 2024 Yes, these all have gems of wisdom. They are fine and well-crafted poems, every single one. But let me add this: if readers just look for simple homespun lessons (the “three miseries” of meaning, message, and moral), they will miss Winick’s overall point. All four poems are sarcastic vignettes of human ignorance and silliness! Consider each one. The persnickety old maid, by being too choosy, has ruined her life. People who don’t face up to their own problems and traumas will get screwed by the world. A wealthy and comfortable man typically forgets the debt that he owes to God. An innocent child gets killed in the mad criminality of our urban centers. By putting them all together, Winick isn’t creating catechism examples! He’s portraying the inescapable horror of human stupidity, and its perennial results. As a lawyer, the poet certainly saw a great deal of the worst side of human life: the greed, the selfishness, the cruelty, the illogic, the vindictiveness, the hatred, the entanglements of protracted litigation… everything that lawyers, psychiatrists, and policemen see on a daily basis. Reply
Alan Steinle January 17, 2024 First of all, if our poems don’t have any meaning at all, then we might as well be writing random syllables. What makes meaning “miserable” sometimes is that we all read into another person’s words our own meanings, which might not be what the author or anyone else saw in the them. Words have unique meanings to each of us because they are associated with unique personal experiences in this world. Legal writing might try to take all of the uncertainty out of words, but even here there is wiggle room for interpretation. If we miss a poet’s own meaning completely, then he would be justified in explaining it in prose, but one of the exciting and frustrating things about poetry, and writing in general, is that we all have our own reflections and interpretations, which don’t have to be viewed or refuted as dogmas. You seem to be giving a meaning to the poems with this statement: “He’s portraying the inescapable horror of human stupidity, and its perennial results.” I wonder if the author would agree completely with your assessment. If he does, does that make it the absolute meaning of the poems? And if the horror of stupidity is inescapable, then why try to improve oneself at all? In my life and poems, I don’t try to create dogmas, but I do agree with the quotation from Browning, “A man’s reach should exceed his grasp, or what’s a heaven for?” Since our language can still create confusions, I believe that the ultimate truth is not verbal, but rather is a state of certainty in eternity. And that’s not a dogma. 🙂 Reply
Joseph S. Salemi January 17, 2024 Alan, I did not say that Winick’s poems have no meaning, or that their meaning was purely dependent on what each individual sees in them. I merely said that the poems were sarcastic vignettes about human stupidity. I felt that many of the other comments posted disregarded this fact, and were reading the poems in a happy, feel-good, positive. smiley-face way — something that is far too common around here. About the validity of individual interpretations — let me give an anecdote. Many years ago, when I was on the full-time faculty at a college, we were interviewing a young man who had just received his PhD. and who was applying for a position as a Shakespeare specialist. To test his abilities, one of the interviewers asked him to talk at length about The Taming of the Shrew. He went on for about fifteen minutes, interpreting the play as a feminist indictment of male arrogance and patriarchal control, with all the concomitant bullshit about gender roles and misogyny. One of our older professors asked him: “Do you think that’s what Shakespeare intended as the meaning of the play?” The little schmuck smiled and replied: “That’s what it means today.” This radical relativism cannot be tolerated in the interpretation of literary texts, and certainly not when we are dealing with traditional formal poetry. Traditional texts have meaning — sometimes clear and fixed, sometimes nuanced, sometimes conflicted. But they are NOT available for any damned interpretation at all! I think Winick’s poems are about the subjects that I mentioned, and that reading them as happy occasions for moralizing is misguided. Maybe Winick would disagree with me, and say that he wrote the poems purely as illustrative material for sermons or catechisms. OK, fine. But to me that would suggest that poets are not always the best interpreters of their own work.
Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Alan – I would say that I try to depict the human condition as I see and understand it, including shortcomings that may be relatable and hopefully are interesting.
Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Joseph – Thank you, first of all, for the compliments. They are humbly appreciated. Second, your analysis is a good example of why SCP has been a godsend for me, in that you and so many other contributors have so much poetic knowledge and experience that I lack, and greatly benefit from. You all can see things in my poems that I’m not necessarily aware of myself, but which often make a quite a bit of sense. As for the sound grouping of these poems, all credit for that goes to Evan, not me. Reply
Mia January 17, 2024 On reading these poem I inadvertently thought of something that up to now found perplexing. What makes a good poem for me. Given that all are well written with meter and rhyme , why are some more appealing than others .On reading these I realised that the poet here makes unpleasant scenarios far more palatable and easier to read. Well apart from the last one the previous ones all made me smile but given its subject it did not jar. Poetry elevating the mundane? I don’t know just commenting. What do you think ? In other words thank you for these, enjoyed reading them . Reply
Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thank you Mia – I’m glad you enjoyed the poems. I try to depict life and people with messages that are no happier or sadder than reality and credibility requires. Reply
Paul A. Freeman January 17, 2024 The Long List of Requirements is an excellent modern cautionary tale, if not an allegory. Reading Self-Help, I read ‘tantrums’ for ‘traumas’, both of which resonate, though the former doesn’t, alas, rhyme with ‘dramas’. And Just Another Deep Blue City Day – I didn’t understand why the blue factor needed to be included to explain away the high per capita death rate from guns and gun violence in America. That aside, the blase ‘thoughts and prayers’ ending is masterful. Thanks for the reads. Reply
Joseph S. Salemi January 17, 2024 Are you trying to censor what Winick says, Paul? Does his “meaning” have to coincide with your political opinions? Reply
Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Paul – Thank you for your compliments. They are much appreciated. Just Another Deep Blue City Day was inspired by actual events, which occurred recently in a large, urban, Democratically-controlled city. For the reason alluded to by Mike below, I believe those demographic and political facts are part of the story, and therefore they were included in the poem. Reply
C.B. Anderson January 17, 2024 At some point, Paul, you will have seen enough of what’s happening in urban settings run by libtards to realize that such “leaders” are spectacularly inept at preserving civilization. Or perhaps it will never matter how much you have seen, due to your clouded vision. Reply
Joshua C. Frank January 17, 2024 “Inept” implies that they want to preserve civilization but just aren’t smart enough. I don’t give them that much credit. If they were inept, they’d make mistakes in our favor once in a while, but they never do. No, I think they actively want to destroy civilization to make us all easier to control.
Mike Bryant January 17, 2024 There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see. -Leonardo da Vinci
Mike Bryant January 17, 2024 First, Russel these poems are really great. I do know that you know this simple fact: The USA is 3rd in murders throughout the world. If you remove: 1. Chicago 2. Detroit 3. Washington DC 4. St. Louis 5. New Orleans The USA is then 189th out of 193 countries in the world. All five cities have very strict gun laws and are run by Democrats. Reply
Russel Winick January 17, 2024 Thank you Mike, for the praise. And yes, I am generally familiar with those facts. I’m from the first city on your list, and it’s very scary. Reply
C.B. Anderson January 17, 2024 I love a mordant poem, Russel. Keep watching the world and keep callin’ ’em like you see ’em. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant January 17, 2024 Russel, these poems tap into the dark side of the human psyche to reveal exactly why the world is plagued with loneliness, irresponsibility, ingratitude, and apathy… and what an abundance there is to go round… often paid for by those stoking chaos for personal gain. Thank you for shedding light in the dark and murky corners where the ogres and their apologists lurk. Reply
Russel Winick January 18, 2024 Thanks Cheryl. Now if I could just get my kids to see it that way….! Reply
Jeff Eardley January 18, 2024 Russel, very witty and most enjoyable. I particularly enjoyed “Return to normal,” that feeling of euphoria on recovery from surgery that quickly melts away into the daily grind of normality. There is much wisdom in your poetry. Thank you for a great read. Reply
Russel Winick January 18, 2024 You’re most welcome, Jeff. And thank you for the very kind words. Reply
Adam Sedia January 23, 2024 “A Long List of Requirements” is a nice character study, but one reminiscent of a more innocent time when women who were too picky would become spinsters “church ladies.” Unfortunately, an updated version of the poem would have to be X-rated to account for the escapades before thinking she is still wife material. As a fellow Chicagoland resident (though mercifully on the Indiana side), “Just Another Deep Blue City Day” evoked memories of I don’t know how many local news reports (before I stopped watching for good) of justifiably outraged communities that then go on to ask for more of what makes them miserable. Also, nice double entendre on “blue.” Reply