A Poem for an Orwellian Memorial Day, by Susan Jarvis Bryant The Society May 27, 2024 Culture, Poetry 44 Comments . Memorial Day, 1984 2024 “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” —George Orwell Today we honor those who gave their all In monstrous conflicts in the name of peace; Those who answered altruism’s call For war to build a world where all wars cease— A lie that soldiers die for every day As those with stakes in arms sling gluts of mud To stir up fury. Callous battles pay The greedy ghouls whose palms are slick with blood. Today we fly our flags and fire our grills For bravery—recalling freedom’s cost We nod to those who fought to quash all ills In fights the fat cats won and bold souls lost. With terror rife and feuds that never cease I’ve come to understand that war is peace. . . Susan Jarvis Bryant is a poet originally from the U.K., now living on the Gulf Coast of Texas. NOTE TO READERS: If you enjoyed this poem or other content, please consider making a donation to the Society of Classical Poets. The Society of Classical Poets does not endorse any views expressed in individual poems or commentary. 44 Responses Dave Etchell May 27, 2024 another thought provoking sonnet, i got round to watching 13 days last night– pretty close to what happened I would think — the world is full of high rank military madmen– the ordinary grunts do the dying– have a good BBQ– hope its not to hot and dry — luscious greens here–18C Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 It’s great to hear from you, Dave… and what civilized temperatures you are experiencing over the pond. It’s crazy hot here in Texas and it’s not summer yet! Sadly, I’m sure you are right when you say, “the world is full of high rank military madmen– the ordinary grunts do the dying”. History repeats itself in many guises which is why it’s good to return to films like 13 days… it tends to put things into perspective. A lot can be learned from the Cuban Missile Crisis. I hope your bank holiday Monday is uniquely rain-free. Reply Phil S.Rogers May 27, 2024 Susan; A poem to honor those who fought and died, and also to call out the ‘greedy ghouls’ and ‘fat cats’ that keep pushing behind the scenes for everlasting conflict. Wow, not sure how many people really understand this, and not sure how many people would dare to put it into a poem. GOOD job! Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Phil, you’ve summed my poem up better than I could have myself, and I thank you wholeheartedly for getting it and for your appreciation. It’s tough to write a heartfelt poem for all those who died in the name of freedom and peace when we are now staring WWIII in the face because of greedy tyrants stoking chaos at the people’s expense. By “the people”, I mean those at home and those abroad. Reply Brian A. Yapko May 27, 2024 There are many layers of meaning in this sonnet, Susan, which result from the collision of a slightly sardonic tone concerning the fat cats versus authentic respect for our honored dead. This collision, of course, overlays the Orwellian double-speak which is far from history’s first example of gaslighting (the movie “Gaslight” itself came out in 1943, 6 years earlier.) But 1984 is the quintissential example of showing how to utilize gaslighting for propaganda and political manipulation — things which are high on the leftist agenda these days. “War is peace” has layers of meaning. There is the nice reference to Tolstoy, of course, but there are hints of the military machines which demand constant war to keep economies going. Then, when you speak of war to end all war, it is hard not to recall that “the War to End All Wars” took place over 100 years ago and not only failed to resolve War, but spawned a series of disasters which led to World War II as well as the forever Israel-Arab wars. Despite the underlying sadness and hardness in your poem, I’m glad you keep the spotlight on gratitude to the service men and women who gave their lives for an ideal. Their sacrifice was not in vain. Rather, we are challenged to live up to it. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Brian, thank you very much for your close and careful reading of my sonnet. For the past few years, I’ve felt compelled to write a poem on Memorial Day, especially since my grandfather fought in WWII. I didn’t want to this year because I find it so hard to get my head around the horrors of the Middle East – horrors created by a tyrannical government that cares little for we the people and a lot for personal power and riches… but, my muse would hear none of it. This is one of those poems that wrote itself in all of an hour. The poem is full of all those things you mention and more… thoughts festering inside me for some years spilled out this morning. The older I get and the more iron-fisted those who govern us get (especially during these post-covid days), the more I can relate to the Orwell quote preceding my sonnet. I am most grateful for my grandfather’s grit and for all those who have fought for our freedoms… and now look. Every freedom our forefathers have earned is ebbing away as we watch the next generations go to war without their country behind them. Iraq and Afghanistan are prime examples of our untrustworthy governments. It’s not that I’m against war per se – I am just against incompetency and evil. I can no longer trust those in power when they make a mess of everything they touch and label the people they serve “baskets of deplorables” and “terrorists”. Brian, I wanted to shine a spotlight on all those who have fought for our freedoms. I am most grateful to my grandfather and “all those service men and women who gave their lives up for an ideal” – and therein lies the rub. The “ideal” has been trampled on by those who have a different ideal. Reply Alan Orsborn May 27, 2024 My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.* —Wilfred Owen *Horace, “it is sweet and fitting to die for one’s country.” Reply Alan Orsborn May 27, 2024 Your poem seems to undulate between several opposing ideas, covering all the bases as it were, finally landing in the last two couplets on the idea that war, as hateful as it is, is necessary. It’s a conclusion I dislike, but in the end, it may be true, I don’t know. Certainly it seems unavoidable. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Alan, I missed your comment on my last two couplets conveying the idea that “war, as hateful as it is, is necessary” – I’m sorry it’s unclear. It’s probably down to my mind being in chaos over war and the meaning of it and what’s behind it. I believe in defending one’s life, loved ones, and land. If one has to go to war to do that, then so be it. As I’ve said, my grandfather fought in WWII, and I don’t think I would have had the freedoms I’ve enjoyed without the temporary defeat of the Nazis. I say temporary, because here we go again – standing up against tyranny. Only this time it’s OUR government, not someone else’s. I hate war. The only people who love it are those getting rich from it – the entire point of my poem. “War is peace” is a nod to the foresight of Orwell. We are being sold that line by a global cabal making sack loads of money at the expense of the innocent. I don’t agree with the wars we’re getting involved with now. When you can’t trust your own government to keep you safe; when your own government has turned the cameras on you; when your own government is able to gag you, imprison you in your own home, and inject you with experimental drugs… why would you trust them to fight for your rights or anyone else’s rights, for that matter? Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Thank you for this, Alan. When one reads the War Poets it really is hard to imagine that “it is sweet and proper to die for one’s country” – Wilfred Owen’s words certainly don’t romanticize war. They are horrific and haunting and give a very clear picture of what war looks like. There is however something deep in our guts that calls us to protect our land and our family, and this instinct is the very thing that drives us to war. The trouble is, these days our countries are very hard to recognize. Our families have been torn apart and our history and our culture have been stolen by our very own governments. What does “war” mean anymore. It means money to those in power… and some of us are feeling increasingly like pawns in a losing game of chess. Reply Alan Orsborn May 27, 2024 I should have made clear, I was reminded of Owen’s poem as I read yours. I think I was distracted with a houseful of grandsons and dogs. I posted the quote as a compliment. Your poem perfectly captures the situation the West faces today. With a collapsing consensus as to what even constitutes a nation with governance that is as incompetent as it is corrupt, who signs up to defend this kind of monstrosity? Oh wait, there’s talk of bringing back the draft: an army of conscripted slaves. Here we go again, for sure. Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 What better way to spend a Memorial Day afternoon than ” distracted with a houseful of grandsons and dogs.” In a world that doesn’t value family and seeks to isolate us from all things bright and beautiful, you are a blessed man, Mr. Orsborne. It’s been lovely talking with you. Joseph S. Salemi May 27, 2024 I think we can best understand the anger in Susan’s poem when we consider this: The same politicians and corporate influencers who started (and are still pushing) the pointless bloodbath in the Ukraine are the same ones in the UN and the NGOs who are frantically screaming for the Israelis to stop fighting in Gaza. Yes, certain big shots want war, but only if their side is the one that wins. If their side begins to lose, they start whining for ceasefires and UN resolutions and “humanitarian aid.” Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Joe, thank you for this. I agree with you for the most part. The only thing I question is the winning aspect. I’m not sure the bigshots care who wins… I think they only care about money. We surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban. The very enemy we were supposedly “fighting” we have now armed to the teeth and then some. We also left our American citizens behind and hundreds of Afghani translators working for us have been murdered. We fund Iran. That’s why I don’t think winning is of any significance to these greedy ghouls whose palms are slick with blood.” I may be wrong and would welcome being put straight. But at this point, I don’t trust any war plans drawn up for the benefit of the we the people… at home or abroad. I applaud our servicemen and women. It’s those who govern them I don’t trust. Reply Joseph S. Salemi May 27, 2024 Susan, if you mean that there are amoral weapons-dealers and munitions-makers who get rich from every war, and who don’t really care one way or another about who’s right and who’s wrong, as long as they pay up front for bullets and bombs, then I agree totally. These bloodsucking ghouls exist in every war. But I also think that many wars today have a deep ideological motivation, the purpose of which is to create a massive globalist government run on left-liberal principles, and determined to destroy the sovereignty of nation-states. Recall the old French saying, used to explain the source of any difficulty or conflict: CHERCHEZ LA FEMME. In wars today, I suggest the following saying: CHERCHEZ LES GAUCHISTES. The globalist left is behind everything. Mike Bryant May 27, 2024 The enlightened governments realize that in order to win, no one can win… wars must continue indefinitely. If a war must end, for whatever reason, then new wars must commence immediately. Funding, of course, must be available and plentiful for all sides of every conflict, which guarantees full employment and maximum growth in GDP, employment and stock market returns for our government/military/medical/industrial complex. I naively hope that our Neo-Cons of both parties don’t realize that their strategies are guaranteeing global tyranny. But I don’t think they really care. “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes… known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.… No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” — James Madison Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Joe, I agree with all you say on the Globalist front. If one begins to look at politics with their ideology in mind, everything the Western world is going through begins to make sense – and it’s chilling. To reach their goal, they have to crush our culture and replace it with their religion… a religion that promotes depopulation and groupthink and the worshipping of man instead of God. It’s a shame the majority of Western world politicians (left and right) have put money before integrity. The majority of politicians have never had it so good! Paul A. Freeman May 27, 2024 In ‘1984’, Julia posits that the ‘steamers’ (V1-type rockets that randomly hit London every now and again) are actually launched by Oceania (their own side), to rile up the people and perpetuate the continual state of war. We have not only long-range drones killing perceived enemies by remote control from porta-cabins on home territory, but smaller drones dropping hand grenades on front line troops in the Ukraine. The production of robots to take the place of humans in warfare is close to fruition, but shrouded in secrecy. Nothing about war seems to be noble these days, if ever it was. A timely reminder, Susan, and respect to all the common soldiers who’ve fought out of a sense of righteousness down the ages. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Paul, a lot of what you say makes sense to me. I believe we the people are being played horribly by those in power to nefarious ends. I am with you when you say: “respect to all the common soldiers who’ve fought out of a sense of righteousness down the ages” – it’s those stalwart souls with a sense of justice we owe our gratitude to, and I thank them, wholeheartedly. I thank you, too. Reply Julian D. Woodruff May 27, 2024 You definitely wrote a poem that no American reader can be comfortable with, Susan. This may seem an odd, even slightly off-base. “Today we fly our flags and fire our grills …” My experience with art featuring the American flag is that the theme / occasion is usually the 4th, not Memorial Day or Labor Day. The flag is just so candy-stripe exuberant, next other nation’s flags (the Union Jack excepted, it’s almost giddiness encoded. It invites joyous celebration, which usually (these days) involves grills and chilled drinks. But we need to think of restoring (if possible) the sobriety the holiday was proclaimed to invoke, if we can’t end war and banish arms profiteers. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Julian, I know I’m a relatively new citizen, but I have seen many flags raised in Texas on Memorial Day… at the cemeteries, in parades, in backyards etc. I was under the impression that on Memorial Day the flag should be flown at half-staff from sunrise until noon and then raised until sunset in honor of the nation’s battle heroes. I do agree with you on the sense-of-sobriety front. You will be pleased to know that I am in a somber and contemplative mood today, which is why I wrote my sonnet. Thank you for your comments. Reply Julian D. Woodruff May 27, 2024 Not at all to contradict you, Susan–all national holidays are indeed appropriate occasions for flying the flag, high or low according to the occasion. Its just that its colors and composition welcome more readily (to me anyway) high spirits, less so sober remembrance and reflection Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Julian, thank you for your viewpoint – a good one that I understand and can relate to. Remembrance Sunday held in November in the UK is a sombre occasion. I remember visiting my grandparents as a child on that day, and the overwhelming aura of respect and sadness has remained with me all of my life… which is why I feel so passionate on days such as these. I don’t want the memory of all those who fought in the name of freedom to fade with our history and our culture. I wanted to highlight our plight and their courage. Joshua C. Frank May 27, 2024 That depends on where you live. I’m in the Heartland, and I’ve seen tons of American flags around for Memorial Day. Reply Joshua C. Frank May 27, 2024 Great poem, Susan! The more history I read, the more I know that history is always written by the winners. We won war X because we’re the good guys and they were the bad guys, end of story. We ignore the fact that the Nazis were largely defeated by the Russians (most soldiers who gave their lives in that conflict were Russian), that the United States came to World War I to late to have an effect, and that the North started a war against the South for some very ignoble reasons that had nothing to do with slavery. In fact, you can’t find material in English on the battle between the English Navy and the Spanish Armada in 1588 that doesn’t paint Spain as the villain. It’s almost as difficult to find books that question the French Revolution slogan, “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.” We agree that “war is hell,” but always add that war is sometimes necessary to bring about a greater good. Meanwhile the examples were all orchestrated by those “fat cats” you mention, and soldiers are fooled into thinking they’re dying for a good cause. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Josh, thank you so much for your thought-provoking observations. I am particularly taken with, “We ignore the fact that the Nazis were largely defeated by the Russians”. Many of these Russians fought for us in the hope that we would offer them sanctuary from the Gulags and certain death if they returned to Russia. I have just recently found out from Solzhenitsyn’s “The Gulag Archipelago” that Britain and America returned these Russian freedom fighters with no mercy, which has made me think deeply about the “truth” I’ve been taught and the actual truth… hence my poem. Reply James Sale May 28, 2024 Very, very skilfully done – especially that last line, a real clincher. When will we teach you in schools? Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 James, thank you very much indeed! If only… Reply Warren Bonham May 28, 2024 This reminds me of the old Bob Dylan song “Masters of War”, but it’s much better done. Dylan had a few great zingers about the Fat Cats who were behind the scenes pulling all the strings. When that song was written, it stirred the passions of the left-leaning youth in America. Your updated version should get them riled up, but they are too ignorant to understand that. If we could ever win the war on Truth, we could start making some real progress. Great and sobering poem! Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Warren, I am most grateful to you for pointing me in the direction of Bob Dylan’s “Masters of War” – I will admit to never having heard of it. “You play with my world like it’s your little toy” is where we’re at… what a great line! You are right when you say, “If we could ever win the war on Truth, we could start making some real progress” – I believe Truth will win this war… and those speaking it will have the last, eternal laugh. 🙂 Reply James Sale May 28, 2024 The weird thing about Dylan, Warren, is that he is a quintessential fat cat himself, for all the lyrical posturing otherwise. Reply Warren Bonham May 28, 2024 I know very little about his personal life (a deficit which I need to address). I was very surprised when he was awarded the Nobel Prize for his supposed “poetry”. Pretty much everyone who posts on this site is more accomplished than Mr. Dylan at merging rhyme and meter with a compelling message. Maybe it was his mastery of the harmonica that led to his outsized appeal. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 What an interesting piece of information, James – serving to prove that actions really do speak louder than words. Reply James Sale May 31, 2024 Yes, if it was really worth doing I could give you a lot more detail on it! Suffice to say, his autobiography, Chronicles, must rank as one of the most disingenuous I have ever read. No mentions of his first love, money, and the deals he’s made; hardly a second mention of his second love, women, for you’d think he’d been a happily married family man all his life. Joan Baez is glimpsed as a sort of Virgin Mary the young folk-sters of Newport adored at a distance! It’s all a Barnum Circus, which is to say, a show – as was his no-show for the Nobel Prize (though I knew he’d still collect the money!) He wrote a few good songs but literary giant, he ain’t. Roy Eugene Peterson May 28, 2024 This is another one of your thought-provoking poems shimmering with the words of wisdom at which you are so adept. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Thank you very much for your continued support and appreciation, Roy. I’m most grateful. Reply David Paul Behrens May 28, 2024 Masters of War (Bob Dylan – !963) Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build all the bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your masks You have never done nothin’ But build to destroy You play with my world Like it’s your little toy You put a gun in my hand And you hide from my eyes Then you turn and run farther When the fast bullets fly Like Judas of old You lie and deceive A world war can be won You want me to believe But I see through your eyes And I see through your brain Like I see through the water That runs down my drain You fasten all the triggers For the others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets higher You hide in your mansion As the young people’s blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud You’ve thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear to bring children Into the world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain’t worth the blood That runs in your veins How much do I know To talk out of turn You might say that I’m young You might say I’m unlearned But there’s one thing I know Though I’m younger than you Even Jesus would never Forgive what you do Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul And I hope that you die And your death will come soon I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I’ll watch while you’re lowered Down to your deathbed And I’ll stand o’er grave Till I’m sure that your dead Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Thank you, David – a timeless gem I have only just had the pleasure of reading and hearing, all because of my friends in poetry on this site – another thing to be thankful to the SCP for. While I’m in a mood of gratitude, I’d like to thank Evan for the great accompanying picture… it highlights my message perfectly. Evan, you have a gift we all benefit from! Reply Adam Wasem May 28, 2024 So cleverly sardonic and paradoxical, the way you so expertly undercut the laudatory bromides with the disgusting money-grubbing reality of our current military foreign policy. I especially liked “whose palms are slick with blood,” nicely playing off the figure of speech “greasing palms.” If more perceived the blood-soaked nature of the taxpayer windfalls our war profiteers enjoy, the Ukraine and Israel conflicts might never have occurred, or would at least have been quickly concluded. Aside from the horrific and pointless current overseas conflicts that the Biden regime is currently sponsoring, if you’re looking for a real blackpill about WWII, try reading Pat Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.” Compare some of the revelations in that with any recent war’s propaganda, and you’ll never trust the corporate media or academia on anything ever again. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Adam, it’s always great to hear from you and thank you for your close reading of my poem. You have hit the nail firmly on the head with your astute observations. I have doubted our governments’ motives for some years and decided that WWII was the nearest to any justified war that I could imagine… only to read the words of Solzhenitsyn concerning the callous return of Russians to a cruel fate in their homeland when we had finished with their services. This sent chills. Thank you for your Pat Buchanan recommendation – I will brace myself. Before I came to Texas in 2011, I only read fiction. Upon arrival, I swept all fiction aside in favor of non-fiction, and my life and my poetry have never been the same. Reply Daniel Kemper May 28, 2024 I thought that this was great irony, “With terror rife and feuds that never cease I’ve come to understand that war is peace.” Of course citing newspeak in an ironic way. Always with the high craft and wit. Always a pleasure. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Daniel, thank you very much indeed! Reply Yael May 29, 2024 Great poem Susan, and I even had the pleasure of reading it on Memorial Day, right before our internet went out. Your poem well expresses how I feel about the holiday, except that I don’t fly flags. After I read it, I typed a comment and hit the Submit button. This caused my comment to get sucked into the black hole of a severed internet connection, and it never came back. The internet is back now and I’m writing this new comment to let you know that I really appreciate your poem. I hope you had a nice Memorial Day. Reply Susan Jarvis Bryant May 30, 2024 Yael, I’m thrilled you enjoyed my Memorial Day poem. I am so glad to hear you’re back online and very happy that you made the effort to comment again. It’s always good to hear from you. Thank you! Reply Leave a Reply Cancel ReplyYour email address will not be published.CommentName* Email* Website Δ This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Dave Etchell May 27, 2024 another thought provoking sonnet, i got round to watching 13 days last night– pretty close to what happened I would think — the world is full of high rank military madmen– the ordinary grunts do the dying– have a good BBQ– hope its not to hot and dry — luscious greens here–18C Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 It’s great to hear from you, Dave… and what civilized temperatures you are experiencing over the pond. It’s crazy hot here in Texas and it’s not summer yet! Sadly, I’m sure you are right when you say, “the world is full of high rank military madmen– the ordinary grunts do the dying”. History repeats itself in many guises which is why it’s good to return to films like 13 days… it tends to put things into perspective. A lot can be learned from the Cuban Missile Crisis. I hope your bank holiday Monday is uniquely rain-free. Reply
Phil S.Rogers May 27, 2024 Susan; A poem to honor those who fought and died, and also to call out the ‘greedy ghouls’ and ‘fat cats’ that keep pushing behind the scenes for everlasting conflict. Wow, not sure how many people really understand this, and not sure how many people would dare to put it into a poem. GOOD job! Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Phil, you’ve summed my poem up better than I could have myself, and I thank you wholeheartedly for getting it and for your appreciation. It’s tough to write a heartfelt poem for all those who died in the name of freedom and peace when we are now staring WWIII in the face because of greedy tyrants stoking chaos at the people’s expense. By “the people”, I mean those at home and those abroad. Reply
Brian A. Yapko May 27, 2024 There are many layers of meaning in this sonnet, Susan, which result from the collision of a slightly sardonic tone concerning the fat cats versus authentic respect for our honored dead. This collision, of course, overlays the Orwellian double-speak which is far from history’s first example of gaslighting (the movie “Gaslight” itself came out in 1943, 6 years earlier.) But 1984 is the quintissential example of showing how to utilize gaslighting for propaganda and political manipulation — things which are high on the leftist agenda these days. “War is peace” has layers of meaning. There is the nice reference to Tolstoy, of course, but there are hints of the military machines which demand constant war to keep economies going. Then, when you speak of war to end all war, it is hard not to recall that “the War to End All Wars” took place over 100 years ago and not only failed to resolve War, but spawned a series of disasters which led to World War II as well as the forever Israel-Arab wars. Despite the underlying sadness and hardness in your poem, I’m glad you keep the spotlight on gratitude to the service men and women who gave their lives for an ideal. Their sacrifice was not in vain. Rather, we are challenged to live up to it. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Brian, thank you very much for your close and careful reading of my sonnet. For the past few years, I’ve felt compelled to write a poem on Memorial Day, especially since my grandfather fought in WWII. I didn’t want to this year because I find it so hard to get my head around the horrors of the Middle East – horrors created by a tyrannical government that cares little for we the people and a lot for personal power and riches… but, my muse would hear none of it. This is one of those poems that wrote itself in all of an hour. The poem is full of all those things you mention and more… thoughts festering inside me for some years spilled out this morning. The older I get and the more iron-fisted those who govern us get (especially during these post-covid days), the more I can relate to the Orwell quote preceding my sonnet. I am most grateful for my grandfather’s grit and for all those who have fought for our freedoms… and now look. Every freedom our forefathers have earned is ebbing away as we watch the next generations go to war without their country behind them. Iraq and Afghanistan are prime examples of our untrustworthy governments. It’s not that I’m against war per se – I am just against incompetency and evil. I can no longer trust those in power when they make a mess of everything they touch and label the people they serve “baskets of deplorables” and “terrorists”. Brian, I wanted to shine a spotlight on all those who have fought for our freedoms. I am most grateful to my grandfather and “all those service men and women who gave their lives up for an ideal” – and therein lies the rub. The “ideal” has been trampled on by those who have a different ideal. Reply
Alan Orsborn May 27, 2024 My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.* —Wilfred Owen *Horace, “it is sweet and fitting to die for one’s country.” Reply
Alan Orsborn May 27, 2024 Your poem seems to undulate between several opposing ideas, covering all the bases as it were, finally landing in the last two couplets on the idea that war, as hateful as it is, is necessary. It’s a conclusion I dislike, but in the end, it may be true, I don’t know. Certainly it seems unavoidable. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Alan, I missed your comment on my last two couplets conveying the idea that “war, as hateful as it is, is necessary” – I’m sorry it’s unclear. It’s probably down to my mind being in chaos over war and the meaning of it and what’s behind it. I believe in defending one’s life, loved ones, and land. If one has to go to war to do that, then so be it. As I’ve said, my grandfather fought in WWII, and I don’t think I would have had the freedoms I’ve enjoyed without the temporary defeat of the Nazis. I say temporary, because here we go again – standing up against tyranny. Only this time it’s OUR government, not someone else’s. I hate war. The only people who love it are those getting rich from it – the entire point of my poem. “War is peace” is a nod to the foresight of Orwell. We are being sold that line by a global cabal making sack loads of money at the expense of the innocent. I don’t agree with the wars we’re getting involved with now. When you can’t trust your own government to keep you safe; when your own government has turned the cameras on you; when your own government is able to gag you, imprison you in your own home, and inject you with experimental drugs… why would you trust them to fight for your rights or anyone else’s rights, for that matter?
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Thank you for this, Alan. When one reads the War Poets it really is hard to imagine that “it is sweet and proper to die for one’s country” – Wilfred Owen’s words certainly don’t romanticize war. They are horrific and haunting and give a very clear picture of what war looks like. There is however something deep in our guts that calls us to protect our land and our family, and this instinct is the very thing that drives us to war. The trouble is, these days our countries are very hard to recognize. Our families have been torn apart and our history and our culture have been stolen by our very own governments. What does “war” mean anymore. It means money to those in power… and some of us are feeling increasingly like pawns in a losing game of chess. Reply
Alan Orsborn May 27, 2024 I should have made clear, I was reminded of Owen’s poem as I read yours. I think I was distracted with a houseful of grandsons and dogs. I posted the quote as a compliment. Your poem perfectly captures the situation the West faces today. With a collapsing consensus as to what even constitutes a nation with governance that is as incompetent as it is corrupt, who signs up to defend this kind of monstrosity? Oh wait, there’s talk of bringing back the draft: an army of conscripted slaves. Here we go again, for sure.
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 What better way to spend a Memorial Day afternoon than ” distracted with a houseful of grandsons and dogs.” In a world that doesn’t value family and seeks to isolate us from all things bright and beautiful, you are a blessed man, Mr. Orsborne. It’s been lovely talking with you.
Joseph S. Salemi May 27, 2024 I think we can best understand the anger in Susan’s poem when we consider this: The same politicians and corporate influencers who started (and are still pushing) the pointless bloodbath in the Ukraine are the same ones in the UN and the NGOs who are frantically screaming for the Israelis to stop fighting in Gaza. Yes, certain big shots want war, but only if their side is the one that wins. If their side begins to lose, they start whining for ceasefires and UN resolutions and “humanitarian aid.” Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Joe, thank you for this. I agree with you for the most part. The only thing I question is the winning aspect. I’m not sure the bigshots care who wins… I think they only care about money. We surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban. The very enemy we were supposedly “fighting” we have now armed to the teeth and then some. We also left our American citizens behind and hundreds of Afghani translators working for us have been murdered. We fund Iran. That’s why I don’t think winning is of any significance to these greedy ghouls whose palms are slick with blood.” I may be wrong and would welcome being put straight. But at this point, I don’t trust any war plans drawn up for the benefit of the we the people… at home or abroad. I applaud our servicemen and women. It’s those who govern them I don’t trust. Reply
Joseph S. Salemi May 27, 2024 Susan, if you mean that there are amoral weapons-dealers and munitions-makers who get rich from every war, and who don’t really care one way or another about who’s right and who’s wrong, as long as they pay up front for bullets and bombs, then I agree totally. These bloodsucking ghouls exist in every war. But I also think that many wars today have a deep ideological motivation, the purpose of which is to create a massive globalist government run on left-liberal principles, and determined to destroy the sovereignty of nation-states. Recall the old French saying, used to explain the source of any difficulty or conflict: CHERCHEZ LA FEMME. In wars today, I suggest the following saying: CHERCHEZ LES GAUCHISTES. The globalist left is behind everything.
Mike Bryant May 27, 2024 The enlightened governments realize that in order to win, no one can win… wars must continue indefinitely. If a war must end, for whatever reason, then new wars must commence immediately. Funding, of course, must be available and plentiful for all sides of every conflict, which guarantees full employment and maximum growth in GDP, employment and stock market returns for our government/military/medical/industrial complex. I naively hope that our Neo-Cons of both parties don’t realize that their strategies are guaranteeing global tyranny. But I don’t think they really care. “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes… known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.… No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” — James Madison
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Joe, I agree with all you say on the Globalist front. If one begins to look at politics with their ideology in mind, everything the Western world is going through begins to make sense – and it’s chilling. To reach their goal, they have to crush our culture and replace it with their religion… a religion that promotes depopulation and groupthink and the worshipping of man instead of God. It’s a shame the majority of Western world politicians (left and right) have put money before integrity. The majority of politicians have never had it so good!
Paul A. Freeman May 27, 2024 In ‘1984’, Julia posits that the ‘steamers’ (V1-type rockets that randomly hit London every now and again) are actually launched by Oceania (their own side), to rile up the people and perpetuate the continual state of war. We have not only long-range drones killing perceived enemies by remote control from porta-cabins on home territory, but smaller drones dropping hand grenades on front line troops in the Ukraine. The production of robots to take the place of humans in warfare is close to fruition, but shrouded in secrecy. Nothing about war seems to be noble these days, if ever it was. A timely reminder, Susan, and respect to all the common soldiers who’ve fought out of a sense of righteousness down the ages. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Paul, a lot of what you say makes sense to me. I believe we the people are being played horribly by those in power to nefarious ends. I am with you when you say: “respect to all the common soldiers who’ve fought out of a sense of righteousness down the ages” – it’s those stalwart souls with a sense of justice we owe our gratitude to, and I thank them, wholeheartedly. I thank you, too. Reply
Julian D. Woodruff May 27, 2024 You definitely wrote a poem that no American reader can be comfortable with, Susan. This may seem an odd, even slightly off-base. “Today we fly our flags and fire our grills …” My experience with art featuring the American flag is that the theme / occasion is usually the 4th, not Memorial Day or Labor Day. The flag is just so candy-stripe exuberant, next other nation’s flags (the Union Jack excepted, it’s almost giddiness encoded. It invites joyous celebration, which usually (these days) involves grills and chilled drinks. But we need to think of restoring (if possible) the sobriety the holiday was proclaimed to invoke, if we can’t end war and banish arms profiteers. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Julian, I know I’m a relatively new citizen, but I have seen many flags raised in Texas on Memorial Day… at the cemeteries, in parades, in backyards etc. I was under the impression that on Memorial Day the flag should be flown at half-staff from sunrise until noon and then raised until sunset in honor of the nation’s battle heroes. I do agree with you on the sense-of-sobriety front. You will be pleased to know that I am in a somber and contemplative mood today, which is why I wrote my sonnet. Thank you for your comments. Reply
Julian D. Woodruff May 27, 2024 Not at all to contradict you, Susan–all national holidays are indeed appropriate occasions for flying the flag, high or low according to the occasion. Its just that its colors and composition welcome more readily (to me anyway) high spirits, less so sober remembrance and reflection
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Julian, thank you for your viewpoint – a good one that I understand and can relate to. Remembrance Sunday held in November in the UK is a sombre occasion. I remember visiting my grandparents as a child on that day, and the overwhelming aura of respect and sadness has remained with me all of my life… which is why I feel so passionate on days such as these. I don’t want the memory of all those who fought in the name of freedom to fade with our history and our culture. I wanted to highlight our plight and their courage.
Joshua C. Frank May 27, 2024 That depends on where you live. I’m in the Heartland, and I’ve seen tons of American flags around for Memorial Day. Reply
Joshua C. Frank May 27, 2024 Great poem, Susan! The more history I read, the more I know that history is always written by the winners. We won war X because we’re the good guys and they were the bad guys, end of story. We ignore the fact that the Nazis were largely defeated by the Russians (most soldiers who gave their lives in that conflict were Russian), that the United States came to World War I to late to have an effect, and that the North started a war against the South for some very ignoble reasons that had nothing to do with slavery. In fact, you can’t find material in English on the battle between the English Navy and the Spanish Armada in 1588 that doesn’t paint Spain as the villain. It’s almost as difficult to find books that question the French Revolution slogan, “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.” We agree that “war is hell,” but always add that war is sometimes necessary to bring about a greater good. Meanwhile the examples were all orchestrated by those “fat cats” you mention, and soldiers are fooled into thinking they’re dying for a good cause. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 27, 2024 Josh, thank you so much for your thought-provoking observations. I am particularly taken with, “We ignore the fact that the Nazis were largely defeated by the Russians”. Many of these Russians fought for us in the hope that we would offer them sanctuary from the Gulags and certain death if they returned to Russia. I have just recently found out from Solzhenitsyn’s “The Gulag Archipelago” that Britain and America returned these Russian freedom fighters with no mercy, which has made me think deeply about the “truth” I’ve been taught and the actual truth… hence my poem. Reply
James Sale May 28, 2024 Very, very skilfully done – especially that last line, a real clincher. When will we teach you in schools? Reply
Warren Bonham May 28, 2024 This reminds me of the old Bob Dylan song “Masters of War”, but it’s much better done. Dylan had a few great zingers about the Fat Cats who were behind the scenes pulling all the strings. When that song was written, it stirred the passions of the left-leaning youth in America. Your updated version should get them riled up, but they are too ignorant to understand that. If we could ever win the war on Truth, we could start making some real progress. Great and sobering poem! Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Warren, I am most grateful to you for pointing me in the direction of Bob Dylan’s “Masters of War” – I will admit to never having heard of it. “You play with my world like it’s your little toy” is where we’re at… what a great line! You are right when you say, “If we could ever win the war on Truth, we could start making some real progress” – I believe Truth will win this war… and those speaking it will have the last, eternal laugh. 🙂 Reply
James Sale May 28, 2024 The weird thing about Dylan, Warren, is that he is a quintessential fat cat himself, for all the lyrical posturing otherwise. Reply
Warren Bonham May 28, 2024 I know very little about his personal life (a deficit which I need to address). I was very surprised when he was awarded the Nobel Prize for his supposed “poetry”. Pretty much everyone who posts on this site is more accomplished than Mr. Dylan at merging rhyme and meter with a compelling message. Maybe it was his mastery of the harmonica that led to his outsized appeal. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 What an interesting piece of information, James – serving to prove that actions really do speak louder than words. Reply
James Sale May 31, 2024 Yes, if it was really worth doing I could give you a lot more detail on it! Suffice to say, his autobiography, Chronicles, must rank as one of the most disingenuous I have ever read. No mentions of his first love, money, and the deals he’s made; hardly a second mention of his second love, women, for you’d think he’d been a happily married family man all his life. Joan Baez is glimpsed as a sort of Virgin Mary the young folk-sters of Newport adored at a distance! It’s all a Barnum Circus, which is to say, a show – as was his no-show for the Nobel Prize (though I knew he’d still collect the money!) He wrote a few good songs but literary giant, he ain’t.
Roy Eugene Peterson May 28, 2024 This is another one of your thought-provoking poems shimmering with the words of wisdom at which you are so adept. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Thank you very much for your continued support and appreciation, Roy. I’m most grateful. Reply
David Paul Behrens May 28, 2024 Masters of War (Bob Dylan – !963) Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build all the bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your masks You have never done nothin’ But build to destroy You play with my world Like it’s your little toy You put a gun in my hand And you hide from my eyes Then you turn and run farther When the fast bullets fly Like Judas of old You lie and deceive A world war can be won You want me to believe But I see through your eyes And I see through your brain Like I see through the water That runs down my drain You fasten all the triggers For the others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets higher You hide in your mansion As the young people’s blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud You’ve thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear to bring children Into the world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain’t worth the blood That runs in your veins How much do I know To talk out of turn You might say that I’m young You might say I’m unlearned But there’s one thing I know Though I’m younger than you Even Jesus would never Forgive what you do Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul And I hope that you die And your death will come soon I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I’ll watch while you’re lowered Down to your deathbed And I’ll stand o’er grave Till I’m sure that your dead Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Thank you, David – a timeless gem I have only just had the pleasure of reading and hearing, all because of my friends in poetry on this site – another thing to be thankful to the SCP for. While I’m in a mood of gratitude, I’d like to thank Evan for the great accompanying picture… it highlights my message perfectly. Evan, you have a gift we all benefit from! Reply
Adam Wasem May 28, 2024 So cleverly sardonic and paradoxical, the way you so expertly undercut the laudatory bromides with the disgusting money-grubbing reality of our current military foreign policy. I especially liked “whose palms are slick with blood,” nicely playing off the figure of speech “greasing palms.” If more perceived the blood-soaked nature of the taxpayer windfalls our war profiteers enjoy, the Ukraine and Israel conflicts might never have occurred, or would at least have been quickly concluded. Aside from the horrific and pointless current overseas conflicts that the Biden regime is currently sponsoring, if you’re looking for a real blackpill about WWII, try reading Pat Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.” Compare some of the revelations in that with any recent war’s propaganda, and you’ll never trust the corporate media or academia on anything ever again. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 29, 2024 Adam, it’s always great to hear from you and thank you for your close reading of my poem. You have hit the nail firmly on the head with your astute observations. I have doubted our governments’ motives for some years and decided that WWII was the nearest to any justified war that I could imagine… only to read the words of Solzhenitsyn concerning the callous return of Russians to a cruel fate in their homeland when we had finished with their services. This sent chills. Thank you for your Pat Buchanan recommendation – I will brace myself. Before I came to Texas in 2011, I only read fiction. Upon arrival, I swept all fiction aside in favor of non-fiction, and my life and my poetry have never been the same. Reply
Daniel Kemper May 28, 2024 I thought that this was great irony, “With terror rife and feuds that never cease I’ve come to understand that war is peace.” Of course citing newspeak in an ironic way. Always with the high craft and wit. Always a pleasure. Reply
Yael May 29, 2024 Great poem Susan, and I even had the pleasure of reading it on Memorial Day, right before our internet went out. Your poem well expresses how I feel about the holiday, except that I don’t fly flags. After I read it, I typed a comment and hit the Submit button. This caused my comment to get sucked into the black hole of a severed internet connection, and it never came back. The internet is back now and I’m writing this new comment to let you know that I really appreciate your poem. I hope you had a nice Memorial Day. Reply
Susan Jarvis Bryant May 30, 2024 Yael, I’m thrilled you enjoyed my Memorial Day poem. I am so glad to hear you’re back online and very happy that you made the effort to comment again. It’s always good to hear from you. Thank you! Reply