"Autumn Play" by Agathe Röstel‘Autumn’ by Rilke and ‘The Art of Poetry’ by Verlaine, Translated by Bruce Phenix The Society October 27, 2023 Beauty, Poetry, Translation 23 Comments . Autumn by Rainer Maria Rilke (1875-1926), translated by Bruce Phenix The falling leaves seem fallen from afar, as though in heaven distant gardens faded; they fall with gestures that deny, negate. And, falling in the night, the earth’s sad weight finds solitude apart from every star. We all fall. See this hand; it falls no less. And look at others: it is in them all. Yet there is someone holding every fall in hands unbounded in their gentleness. . Original German Herbst Die Blätter fallen, fallen wie von weit, als welkten in den Himmeln ferne Gärten; sie fallen mit verneinender Gebärde. Und in den Nächten fällt die schwere Erde aus allen Sternen in die Einsamkeit. Wir alle fallen. Diese Hand da fällt. Und sieh dir andre an: es ist in allen. Und doch ist Einer, welcher dieses Fallen unendlich sanft in seinen Händen hält. . . The Art of Poetry by Paul Verlaine (1844-96), translated by Bruce Phenix Most of all, make a musical phrase Of each line, and, Uneven in length, Not excessive in weight or in strength, Let it melt in the air like a haze. In your choice of words, heed my advice— Ambiguity is never wrong: No more precious thing than the grey song Where the Indistinct meets the Precise. It is beautiful eyes veils half-hide, It’s the shimmering light of midday; It’s the shining stars’ blue disarray When a cool autumn sky opens wide. For we want subtle Shade; I must warn Against Colour and brightness of tone. Subtle shade can betroth, shade alone, Dream to dream and the flute to the horn! Keep well clear of the cruel sharp Wit, Of the murderous Quips, impure Jeers, Which will draw from the Azure sad tears— All that garlic makes dishes unfit! Just take eloquence and wring its neck! In your efforts you’ll do very well if you temper your Rhyme—who can tell The result if it’s not kept in check? Who will tell of Rhyme’s wrongdoings, who? What mad negro has forged, what deaf child, This fake trinket for us, which, when filed, Rings so hollow, this thing worth a sou? Music always, I re-emphasise! Let your line be a soul’s soaring thing That we sense as it flees on the wing When it seeks other loves, other skies. Make your line the good fortune in store, Scattered freely in morning’s fresh breeze, Which the mint and thyme scent as they please… And the rest is all writing, no more. . Original French Art poétique De la musique avant toute chose, Et pour cela préfère l’Impair Plus vague et plus soluble dans l’air, Sans rien en lui qui pèse ou qui pose. Il faut aussi que tu n’ailles point Choisir tes mots sans quelque méprise: Rien de plus cher que la chanson grise Où l’Indécis au Précis se joint. C’est des beaux yeux derrière des voiles, C’est le grand jour tremblant de midi, C’est, par un ciel d’automne attiédi, Le bleu fouillis des claires étoiles! Car nous voulons la Nuance encor, Pas la Couleur, rien que la nuance! Oh ! la nuance seule fiance Le rêve au rêve et la flûte au cor! Fuis du plus loin la Pointe assassine, L’Esprit cruel et le Rire impur, Qui font pleurer les yeux de l’Azur, Et tout cet ail de basse cuisine! Prends l’éloquence et tords-lui son cou! Tu feras bien, en train d’énergie, De rendre un peu la Rime assagie. Si l’on n’y veille, elle ira jusqu’où? Ô qui dira les torts de la Rime? Quel enfant sourd ou quel nègre fou Nous a forgé ce bijou d’un sou Qui sonne creux et faux sous la lime? De la musique encore et toujours! Que ton vers soit la chose envolée Qu’on sent qui fuit d’une âme en allée Vers d’autres cieux à d’autres amours. Que ton vers soit la bonne aventure Éparse au vent crispé du matin Qui va fleurant la menthe et le thym… Et tout le reste est littérature. . . Bruce Phenix worked as a civil servant in England from 1983 until his retirement in 2021, in various administrative roles in transport and environment. He has a longstanding interest in foreign languages and other cultures and his translations have been published in numerous, including in the Norton Anthology of World Masterpieces. He also has extensive experience, over a period of 35 years, in giving English language support to students from Far Eastern backgrounds. He won the Yeats Club’s 1989 Catullus Award for the best translation from an ancient language. NOTE TO READERS: If you enjoyed this poem or other content, please consider making a donation to the Society of Classical Poets. The Society of Classical Poets does not endorse any views expressed in individual poems or commentary. Trending now: 23 Responses Jeffrey Essmann October 27, 2023 Beautiful translation of the Rilke, Mr. Phenix. Thanks so much. Reply Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 I really appreciate your kind comments, Mr Essmann (Jeffrey). It’s a lovely and haunting poem, and I’m delighted that you liked the translation. Reply Jeffrey Essmann October 27, 2023 Your timing couldn’t have been better. Lately I’ve been going through translations of Das Stundenbuch, specifically Edward Snow’s and the co-translation by Anita Barrows and Joanna Macy. Both are wonderful, but I eventually went with the latter (where the approach and focus seem similar to yours). At any rate, you are in very good company. Thanks again for a beautiful read. Monika Cooper October 27, 2023 How beautiful. “Just take eloquence and wring its neck!” Poetry’s imperatives are not rhetoric’s rules. Reply Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 Thank you for commenting so positively. I very much agree with you about the nature of true poetry. Douglas Parmée says in his anthology ‘Twelve French Poets 1820-1900’ that ‘eloquence’ here is ‘no doubt a reference to Hugo and certain other poets of his generation’ – not that I have anything against Hugo myself! Reply Monika Cooper October 28, 2023 Do you mind if I ask you, about Hugo: what poems of his do you recommend and what translation? I came across “Boaz Asleep” earlier this year and the discovery was a milestone for me but I’m not sure where to go from there. (Anyone else with a suggestion would be more than welcome to chime on this as well.) Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Monika, Thank you for your message. I’m afraid I’m no expert on Hugo myself and have probably read only half a dozen or so of his poems. The selection by Parmée that I have includes, apart from ‘Booz endormi’, the following Hugo poems, which may be a reasonable place to start: Clair de lune ; Soleils couchants ; Lorsque l’enfant paraît ; Puisque j’ai mis ma lèvre ; Tristesse d’Olympio ; Souvenir de la nuit du quatre ; Réponse à un acte d’accusation ; Mes deux filles ; Elle était déchaussée ; Viens ! – une flûte invisible ; Demain, dès l’aube ; À Villequier; Paroles sur la dune ; Mugitusque boum; Pasteurs et troupeaux ; La rose de l’infante ; Le satyre. Unfortunately, my ignorance extends to English translations of Hugo’s poems too! I note, however, that Joshua – who has himself translated two Hugo poems – has kindly offered some helpful suggestions in response. Joshua C. Frank October 28, 2023 I’ve translated two of Hugo’s poems myself, planning on translating more: https://classicalpoets.org/2022/11/05/guitar-by-victor-hugo-translated-by-joshua-c-frank/ Others here have translated his work as well: https://classicalpoets.org/2022/05/09/a-translation-and-musical-setting-of-victor-hugos-poem-demain-des-laube-by-james-a-tweedie/ https://classicalpoets.org/2017/11/17/translation-of-la-function-du-poet-by-victor-hugo/ Monika Cooper October 31, 2023 Thank you for the marvelous and generous suggestions here, Bruce and Joshua. C.B. Anderson October 27, 2023 Beautiful, yes! No one should fail to see that. And going by my slight familiarity with German and my even slighter grasp of French, these poems appear to follow the originals very closely — real translations, not just versions. Reply Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 Thank you so much for your kind remarks. As a newcomer to the Society and its website, I find them very encouraging. Reply Roy Eugene Peterson October 27, 2023 The German “Herbst” is beautifully and closely translated. I do not know French, but I enthusiastically endorse how you translated it while keeping rhyme and rhythm. Great translation on both that I sincerely enjoyed. Reply Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 I’m so grateful for your generous comments on both poems. To have a translation described as both ‘beautiful’ and ‘close’ is, for me, the highest compliment. Reply Joseph S. Salemi October 27, 2023 Both these translations are among the most beautiful ever to grace this website. The Verlaine, with perfect ABBA rhymes maintained through nine quatrains, is utterly dazzling. Reply Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 The generosity of your comments touches and humbles me. Thank you so much for what you’ve said. Reply Sally Cook October 27, 2023 These are fine translations. In both, you make reference to music as a quality in poetry. You see synesthesia as no stranger to verse, and I am glad to have had my musical training before any serious attempts at poetry. Reply Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Thank you very much for your positive response and for highlighting the close connection between music and poetry. I love music but regret that I’ve had no musical training – I envy you yours! Reply Margaret Coats October 27, 2023 The German poem has its beauty in the concept, and by adhering to Rilke’s placements of the word “fall,” Bruce, you bring out its logical flow. It does pass very quickly from one connotation to another, and you present that smoothly in English. Verlaine’s “Art Poetique” is quite another challenge. Insofar as it represents the poet’s literary theory, you must do the opposite of what he directs for poetry itself. The English must be precise about what he approves and disapproves. Music and line (verse) and subtlety are good; anything pointed or sharp is bad. That even includes eloquence and literature itself–in relation to the musical line. You make this comes across, even causing readers to question what he means by those terms we usually view in a positive light. Not shady or nuanced enough, I imagine! I’m glad you noted the eloquence aversion could be a reference to Hugo. Hugo’s verse does sometimes aim at painfully sad effects. They’re apropos for the topic, but maybe too much so for Verlaine. Another possibility is that “eloquence” here refers especially to logic. And for “literature” in the final line, I have a recollection that the word in French has an archaic sense of “learning,” which your “writing” suggests. The poem offers seriously light-hearted thoughts on the topic. You do well in making Verlaine sound a bit more pointed than he claims to be! Reply Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Margaret, I want to thank you sincerely not only for your kind comments on the translations but for your detailed and perceptive comments on the original poems. I am no expert on French or German literature but can appreciate the value of your insights. Reply Mia October 28, 2023 Thank you, I think The Art of Poetry has so many beautiful lines it is difficult to have favourites. (Take heart if you are reading this Mr Hollywood as we now have it on good authority that ambiguity is never wrong! In fact according to this poet, the poem, Unveiled they appear, ticks all the boxes.) It is a lesson for me. Musicality in poetry is key. I must remember, All that garlic makes dishes unfit! Thank you again for giving us the opportunity to read these beautiful poems Reply Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Mia, I really appreciate your kind and positive comments on the translations. And it’s lovely that a nineteenth-century poem like this one of Verlaine’s can still generate a lively literary discussion! Reply Joshua C. Frank October 28, 2023 Bruce, these are both great! If I didn’t know better, I’d think these were originally written in English by one of our classic poets. I don’t speak German, but I do speak French. Verlaine used sound techniques in this poem that are familiar to many of us: alliteration, internal rhyme, etc. It would have been extremely difficult to render them in English and preserve the poem’s original meaning, so I think you made the right decision to focus only on preserving meter and end rhymes. I’m familiar with Verlaine myself, through Georges Brassens setting his poems to music. Here are some videos (all in French, of course): “Columbine:” https://youtu.be/TqSiZZ8mRiQ?si=sH-DXAp-yuFxr3HE “Verlaine:” https://youtu.be/kTpC4p1xAqw?si=hln4lqqFydXZSQ7p Also, he read the poem “L’Enterrement de Verlaine” by Paul Fort: https://youtu.be/j1vQNMeC4Bc?si=W5UanjKsvwAB3ITO Reply Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Joshua, Thank you so much for your kind and interesting remarks and also for your Hugo and Verlaine suggestions. These are all much appreciated, and I’ll certainly be looking especially at your own and the other Hugo translations. Reply Leave a Reply Cancel ReplyYour email address will not be published.CommentName* Email* Website Δ This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.
Jeffrey Essmann October 27, 2023 Beautiful translation of the Rilke, Mr. Phenix. Thanks so much. Reply
Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 I really appreciate your kind comments, Mr Essmann (Jeffrey). It’s a lovely and haunting poem, and I’m delighted that you liked the translation. Reply
Jeffrey Essmann October 27, 2023 Your timing couldn’t have been better. Lately I’ve been going through translations of Das Stundenbuch, specifically Edward Snow’s and the co-translation by Anita Barrows and Joanna Macy. Both are wonderful, but I eventually went with the latter (where the approach and focus seem similar to yours). At any rate, you are in very good company. Thanks again for a beautiful read.
Monika Cooper October 27, 2023 How beautiful. “Just take eloquence and wring its neck!” Poetry’s imperatives are not rhetoric’s rules. Reply
Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 Thank you for commenting so positively. I very much agree with you about the nature of true poetry. Douglas Parmée says in his anthology ‘Twelve French Poets 1820-1900’ that ‘eloquence’ here is ‘no doubt a reference to Hugo and certain other poets of his generation’ – not that I have anything against Hugo myself! Reply
Monika Cooper October 28, 2023 Do you mind if I ask you, about Hugo: what poems of his do you recommend and what translation? I came across “Boaz Asleep” earlier this year and the discovery was a milestone for me but I’m not sure where to go from there. (Anyone else with a suggestion would be more than welcome to chime on this as well.)
Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Monika, Thank you for your message. I’m afraid I’m no expert on Hugo myself and have probably read only half a dozen or so of his poems. The selection by Parmée that I have includes, apart from ‘Booz endormi’, the following Hugo poems, which may be a reasonable place to start: Clair de lune ; Soleils couchants ; Lorsque l’enfant paraît ; Puisque j’ai mis ma lèvre ; Tristesse d’Olympio ; Souvenir de la nuit du quatre ; Réponse à un acte d’accusation ; Mes deux filles ; Elle était déchaussée ; Viens ! – une flûte invisible ; Demain, dès l’aube ; À Villequier; Paroles sur la dune ; Mugitusque boum; Pasteurs et troupeaux ; La rose de l’infante ; Le satyre. Unfortunately, my ignorance extends to English translations of Hugo’s poems too! I note, however, that Joshua – who has himself translated two Hugo poems – has kindly offered some helpful suggestions in response.
Joshua C. Frank October 28, 2023 I’ve translated two of Hugo’s poems myself, planning on translating more: https://classicalpoets.org/2022/11/05/guitar-by-victor-hugo-translated-by-joshua-c-frank/ Others here have translated his work as well: https://classicalpoets.org/2022/05/09/a-translation-and-musical-setting-of-victor-hugos-poem-demain-des-laube-by-james-a-tweedie/ https://classicalpoets.org/2017/11/17/translation-of-la-function-du-poet-by-victor-hugo/
Monika Cooper October 31, 2023 Thank you for the marvelous and generous suggestions here, Bruce and Joshua.
C.B. Anderson October 27, 2023 Beautiful, yes! No one should fail to see that. And going by my slight familiarity with German and my even slighter grasp of French, these poems appear to follow the originals very closely — real translations, not just versions. Reply
Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 Thank you so much for your kind remarks. As a newcomer to the Society and its website, I find them very encouraging. Reply
Roy Eugene Peterson October 27, 2023 The German “Herbst” is beautifully and closely translated. I do not know French, but I enthusiastically endorse how you translated it while keeping rhyme and rhythm. Great translation on both that I sincerely enjoyed. Reply
Bruce Phenix October 27, 2023 I’m so grateful for your generous comments on both poems. To have a translation described as both ‘beautiful’ and ‘close’ is, for me, the highest compliment. Reply
Joseph S. Salemi October 27, 2023 Both these translations are among the most beautiful ever to grace this website. The Verlaine, with perfect ABBA rhymes maintained through nine quatrains, is utterly dazzling. Reply
Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 The generosity of your comments touches and humbles me. Thank you so much for what you’ve said. Reply
Sally Cook October 27, 2023 These are fine translations. In both, you make reference to music as a quality in poetry. You see synesthesia as no stranger to verse, and I am glad to have had my musical training before any serious attempts at poetry. Reply
Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Thank you very much for your positive response and for highlighting the close connection between music and poetry. I love music but regret that I’ve had no musical training – I envy you yours! Reply
Margaret Coats October 27, 2023 The German poem has its beauty in the concept, and by adhering to Rilke’s placements of the word “fall,” Bruce, you bring out its logical flow. It does pass very quickly from one connotation to another, and you present that smoothly in English. Verlaine’s “Art Poetique” is quite another challenge. Insofar as it represents the poet’s literary theory, you must do the opposite of what he directs for poetry itself. The English must be precise about what he approves and disapproves. Music and line (verse) and subtlety are good; anything pointed or sharp is bad. That even includes eloquence and literature itself–in relation to the musical line. You make this comes across, even causing readers to question what he means by those terms we usually view in a positive light. Not shady or nuanced enough, I imagine! I’m glad you noted the eloquence aversion could be a reference to Hugo. Hugo’s verse does sometimes aim at painfully sad effects. They’re apropos for the topic, but maybe too much so for Verlaine. Another possibility is that “eloquence” here refers especially to logic. And for “literature” in the final line, I have a recollection that the word in French has an archaic sense of “learning,” which your “writing” suggests. The poem offers seriously light-hearted thoughts on the topic. You do well in making Verlaine sound a bit more pointed than he claims to be! Reply
Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Margaret, I want to thank you sincerely not only for your kind comments on the translations but for your detailed and perceptive comments on the original poems. I am no expert on French or German literature but can appreciate the value of your insights. Reply
Mia October 28, 2023 Thank you, I think The Art of Poetry has so many beautiful lines it is difficult to have favourites. (Take heart if you are reading this Mr Hollywood as we now have it on good authority that ambiguity is never wrong! In fact according to this poet, the poem, Unveiled they appear, ticks all the boxes.) It is a lesson for me. Musicality in poetry is key. I must remember, All that garlic makes dishes unfit! Thank you again for giving us the opportunity to read these beautiful poems Reply
Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Mia, I really appreciate your kind and positive comments on the translations. And it’s lovely that a nineteenth-century poem like this one of Verlaine’s can still generate a lively literary discussion! Reply
Joshua C. Frank October 28, 2023 Bruce, these are both great! If I didn’t know better, I’d think these were originally written in English by one of our classic poets. I don’t speak German, but I do speak French. Verlaine used sound techniques in this poem that are familiar to many of us: alliteration, internal rhyme, etc. It would have been extremely difficult to render them in English and preserve the poem’s original meaning, so I think you made the right decision to focus only on preserving meter and end rhymes. I’m familiar with Verlaine myself, through Georges Brassens setting his poems to music. Here are some videos (all in French, of course): “Columbine:” https://youtu.be/TqSiZZ8mRiQ?si=sH-DXAp-yuFxr3HE “Verlaine:” https://youtu.be/kTpC4p1xAqw?si=hln4lqqFydXZSQ7p Also, he read the poem “L’Enterrement de Verlaine” by Paul Fort: https://youtu.be/j1vQNMeC4Bc?si=W5UanjKsvwAB3ITO Reply
Bruce Phenix October 28, 2023 Joshua, Thank you so much for your kind and interesting remarks and also for your Hugo and Verlaine suggestions. These are all much appreciated, and I’ll certainly be looking especially at your own and the other Hugo translations. Reply